You bring up several great points, ones that I became very familiar with while attending the program. (Pg 5), Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God, as we understood Him.Step Three is like opening of a locked door. While also providing a witness and a rebuke to the women leaders or the womens group, as it was preaching different gospel, and a different Jesus/Yeshua.. Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, NOR DRUNKARDS, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. There is a saying I have heard often, which goes something like this, Here are ten common situations that are very dangerous to a person in recovery. 15Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. Celebrate Recovery is credited with helping destigmatize addiction among evangelicals and opening the church up as a safer place for recovery. However, that is part of what it means to count the cost (Luke 14:28) of following Christ. Too many churches judge them for who and what they are instead of trying to help them. A spiritual awakening or new state of consciousness are specific terms that are used within the New Age or occult. Baker immediately saw the need to connect the gospel with the recovery program he had gone through. Giving that asks no reward. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Many alcoholic/addicts are not ready for solid food 1Cor3:2, Heb5:14. To admit to be powerless over alcohol, does not address that it is a sin of drunkenness and a lust of the flesh, and needs to be repented of, as the Scriptures state, but rather that a combination of an allergy and mental obsession to bring a humility to sobriety. If you are not familiar with Rick Warren and his apostasy, please check out the below 6 minute video from Good Fight Ministries, that exposes one aspect concerning Rick Warren : I attended CR for a year, and during that time I was instructed by the Spirit to not partake in the worship, as the music and worship came from Saddleback. 12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD(YHWH): and because of these abominations the LORD(YHWH) thy God doth drive them out from before thee. You said, Why do we need 12 steps when the only step our Saviour has told us to do is repent and turn away from sin/evil. In fact, there are many programs and practices that may appear to be beneficial to the mind and body, yet when we test those practices against the word of God, they are proven to be false. When I was in rehab, a young girl left AMA and a few people and counselors had no hope for her because she wanted to immerse herself in God and leave what didnt work for her. This is all quite contrary to the Word of God, and is what is called anti-Christ. Giving that asks no reward. TSF is the law of the land. Contact the group directly to see if these are offered. It is mixing the Holy, and the profane. And Sobriety in any sense is not just for the addict but also for the many afflicted by the addict, such as the one that died in an accident. 12 Steps and 8 Beatitudes; 2. Whether the battle is with addiction, physical abuse, sexual abuse, emotional abuse, consequences of bad choices, or any specific mental health issues, Celebrate Recovery saves lives. But watch yourself, or you also may be tempted. It becomes an addiction because the flesh craves it. Judge everything you think, say, or do harshly, as never "good enough." Are a perfectionist. I take comfort in the thought that as John enters the presence of his Lord, he will hear the words, Great, Johnyou did it!. I know several people who were addicts and now can occasionally partake in rare occasions because they no longer want the life they had before . I brought up that step three goes against the first two of the 10 commandments, and that there shall be no other gods before Him. It may use terms like god, creator, higher power, however, the god and creator that they speak is not that of Jesus/Yeshua. 1 Peter 1:13Wherefore gird up the loins of your mind, be sober, and hope to the end for the grace that is to be brought unto you at the revelation of Jesus Christ;14As obedient children, not fashioning yourselves according to the former lusts in your ignorance:15But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation;16Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. To find out if these will be offered at your group, please call the contact number. How should a Christian view alcoholics? Celebrate Recovery founder John Baker, who turned his testimony recovering from alcoholism into a biblical 12-step program used by more than 7 million people, died unexpectedly on Tuesday at age 72. Leviticus 19:31Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD(YHWH) your God. When someone is in AA, it is no different than someone being in Hinduism. However, what is the true motive of this program, what is its foundation, and is it suitable for those who profess to be walking with Messiah? With maturity comes discernment, and with discernment comes an understanding that just because something may have been beneficial, or helpful, does not mean that it is sanctioned by God. The magnificent reality. I say dont throw out the baby with the water. Two members of that group William(Bill) Wilson, and Dr. Bob Smith came together in 1935 to officially start what is known as AA. This very much includes programs like AA/CR which do not have a grounding in the Bible at all. How you define any program that has a veneer of righteousness connected to it, should be tested to the Word of God. I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my sinful nature. | We have Graphic Designers to assist you | service@banners.com 1.866.419.SIGN. Do not take the writer of this piece or even my word. For it is God who works in you to will and to act according to his good purpose. Theyre always there to help somebody if theyre struggling. We are here for you online 24/7! 1 Peter 3:17For it is better, if it is Gods will, to suffer for doing good than for doing evil. Because Celebrate Recovery is based on the Twelve Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous and practiced in thousands of Christian churches without ever being questioned or held up to the light of scripture it is one of the most damaging forms of apostasy in the modern Christian church. With the introduction of The Landing-God's vision for Celebrate Recovery is now complete!" -John Baker "The Landing provides a safe place for students to share about their hurts, hang-ups, and habits and learn to apply the Principles of Celebrate Recovery to help them break the cycle of dysfunction in their families." - Johnny Baker All things including our evil ways will work to the glory of God somehow, and that is something I do and must believe in my journey. I was at that time still in Active Duty military, and completing rehab was essential for me to continue to have a career at that time. Some people understand what weve been through and some do not. Roughly in 2014, I was going through some books in our bookshelf, and my eyes came upon the Big Book (Alcoholics Anonymous), and an Alateen book that I had for quite a long time. Alcoholism is not a disease. They are drunk, but not with wine; They stagger, but not with intoxicating drink. Contrary to what people think, this program is not only for people with alcohol and drug addictions. Thanks for sharing brother. R I cannot guarantee that it wont be awkward, and you might even lose those you thought were your friends. Yes, you are correct in that we should never simply believe anyones word at something, and I am not offended if you do not believe my testimony. I also know many who have never even tempted themselves ever again. Within AA, the introduction is similar in the person identifies as their addiction, My Name is, and I am a drug addict/alcoholic. Life after the Military does not always make sense. I understand how you could have mixed feelings about this, and I appreciate you sharing. It is for anyone who has a "hurt, hang-up, or habit" within the community at large or our own church body - not restricted to only people struggling with an addiction. It also anti-christ as it denies Yeshua/Jesus as the Only Way(1 Joh 2:22-23, Joh 14:6). John touched more people with the healing power and grace of Jesus Christ than anyone else that I have ever known personally and one of those lives was mine, wrote Celebrate Recoverys national director and national training coach Mac and Mary Owen. 27). His whole purpose of me going there was to gain insight into these areas, help those who He placed across my path, and then expose and confront the lies of it. Show me the Buddha worshiper or the person whos higher power is a rock, and I can pray that God will use me and give me the wisdom through His Spirit to share Gods Word and the Good News with that person. He wrote out a vision for what would become Celebrate Recoverys own version of the 12 steps, each one paired with a teaching from Scripture, and shared it with Rick Warren back in 1991. Plight of the disillusioned. The one woman though, who had praised Jesus, wanted me to stay and chat with her for a little while. A.A. teaches that alcoholism is a disease for which there is no ultimate cure. I needed to see this. Celebrate Recovery at Family Life Church is a Christ Centered program that uses valuable principles to help free us from the effects of our hurts, habits, and hang ups. If God can work through the mouth of a mule he can work through anyone he chooses. Please check directly with each church to find out if they are running during Covid-19. Email vriggins@graceclarksville.com. Are these 12 steps in alignment with the Scriptures? The Bible tells us to hate sin and evil, to cut it out of our life. I have yet to meet an alcoholic who can not relate to Proverbs 23:29-35 no matter what they believe in; its a great introduction for a drunk to the Word of God. They didnt attend any program, they just hit their rock bottom which is only decided by the individual suffering addiction. It reminds me of a favorite passage of mine: Hebrews 11:25Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. My KJV Bible is all I need in this life plus my brothers and sisters in Christ. The only way for that to happen is through repentance of these programs/doctrines. for the living to the dead?(KJV). SPEAK TO SOMEONE TODAY. Initially when I went through rehab, now over 13 years ago, I went briefly through AA(Alcoholics Anonymous) as it was a requirement of the rehabilitation program I was part of. During the worship time, I sat in the back reading my Word. Your email address will not be published. Yet, this is an occultic practice, which is a form of witchcraft. I understand that people, even those like myself, have been helped through these programs, however, the ultimate purpose of these programs are to lead people to dependency on the program itself, which is why in the 12th step of the AA program it teaches to: 12) Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs. Joy of living is the theme of the Twelfth Step. I do believe reaching others, Addicts, Alcoholics and whom so ever will through the church is the area of your calling. Love that has no price tag. It is for people with hurts, habits and hangups they simply cannot overcome in their own strength. All rights reserved. The group leader has been through step studies multiple times and still struggles with her problems. Step 12, not only speaks of New Age enlightenment, but blasphemes the true free gift, that of salvation, as well as the responsibility for a believer to share and take the gospel message to all, not the AA message. You may want to celebrate any, or all, of the following milestones in recovery: (Don't celebrate too much here because you are VERY much at risk still for relapse in the early days of recovery. So, I dont think we really have differing views on this, as you can be led into a church, program or group to share the truth of Gods Word, without necessarily being a partaker in it. This is a good read and that is what God has laid in my heart over the years of my addiction and recovery. We have all been lied to or deceived on some level or another, however once we know the truth, we are held accountable and can no longer hide under the mercy of the Father while we were in ignorance. 2) We came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. Rom 6:23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord(BSB), Mark 16:15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature(KJV), 1 Cor 6:20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are Gods(KJV). I lived at AA and Alanon meetings for years and was helped tremendously and then almost completely stopped. 2. Why must every A.A. hit bottom? People who have experienced this deep form of sin sickness God has used and helped people through these programs. It is like taking a pile of poop, and placing the Bible on top. I was never once told that it was a sin. Both alcohol and drugs impair judgment and control of the body. Ive experienced His amazing grace and mercy through both programs. Also, during this time, I was able to minister to quite a few women, and also became a sponsor.. God loves and sent His Son to die for us all. It is basically peddling the same lie that Satan spoke in the garden, in that both Adam and Eve would achieve knowledge apart from the wisdom of God. See ya, Baker said. At Landmark Recovery, we are happy to help you find a support system that meshes with your belief system. So, now what about the 12 steps? The Scriptures make it quite clear that these practices are contrary to the way of the Lord(YHWH). So before I continue on with my story, I would like to go through some areas of AA. (KJV), Deuteronomy 18:10There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, 11Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. I did not understand that this was a New Age practice, which was to focus on specific auras coming from different points of my body. Manny blessings, and I will be praying for you! CR is for anyone with a hurt, habit or a hang up. He wanted to also save lives, now. Recovery signals a dramatic shift in the expectation for positive outcomes for individuals who experience mental and substance use conditions or the co-occurring of the two. (Pgs 8-9). There was initially some resistance, as I have witnessed with so many others, as this becomes a crucial point for many, as they take that step in obedience. There is simply no way to put into words how I love John and will miss this kind, creative, brilliant and faithful man., Evangelical leader Johnnie Moore, whose family previously belonged to Saddleback Church when living in California, remembered Bakers commitment to saving the lives of the people whom God loves., He became a doctor of hope for those whose lives were caught in vicious cycles of guilt, shame, and failure. (Mat 16:19-20). I was also told that alcoholism is a disease, and that once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic. After the meeting was over, all the women left, did not say anything to me, just turned their backs and left. Celebrate Recovery is a biblical and balanced program that helps us overcome our hurts, hang-ups, and habits. The Celebrate Recovery Bible has been designed to work with the resources developed and tested in the national and international ministry of Celebrate Recovery. And Love indeed had a pricethe price that Yeshua paid with His own life. Celebrate Recovery is a substance abuse recovery program based primarily on biblical teachings and the words and loving power of Jesus Christ. Then they can turn their lives over to this god as they understand him. Modesty of the HeartWhere is your Treasure? When I was very young in my faith and had little discernment into things and practices I was doing, I had gone to get a different kind of massage called a chakra massage. Subscribe to CT They preached about their higher power being God or Jesus but seemed to have no faith that He could deliver her or anyone Without AA. I have gone and still go to CR meetings. Anxiety causes us to waste precious energy dealing with past hurts hiding stuff and fear of being found inept kept me from present Hiding kept me Change can only happen in the present . I am going to go through these areas, and will be sharing what I have learned, what I have personally gone through, and what the Lord, or YHWH, has shown me, through the guidance of His Spirit. Do not ask others to meet your needs or desires. 14And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. So, it is important to keep ourselves pure from false doctrines and teachers. However, the cost of sharing the truth with others, is rejection. To produce good fruit, a practice or program has to be sound in the word of God. Therefore, I urge you, brothers, in view of Gods mercy, to offer your bodies as living sacrifices, holy and pleasing to God this is your spiritual act of worship. I couldnt wrap my mind around the Beatitudes being misrepresented in the steps of CR. So, with my meetings with the woman I sponsored, I started out with repentance and I went through the 10 commandments, what sin is, and what it means to turn from sin. I prayed about matters, and asked Him what His will was for me to do, and how to instruct this woman. I have found that times when I am feeling too comfortable, that I am not growing or stepping out where I should be. Through much prayer, and acquiring the Fathers will, the Spirit instructed me when I needed to go back, to finish what He had begun in me. I sat to the left of the CR group leader, which would mean that I would be the first to speak. Elena, yes, thank you. We believe that this program targets the one thing that we all have in commonwe're all messed up in one way or another. Read reviews, compare customer ratings, see screenshots, and learn more about Celebrate Recovery. It can come as a shock to many individuals to discover that the good times can also be a test as well. Sign up for our newsletter: I dont go to CR meetings like I used to but at times I still go. (Heb 10:26) God has grace and mercy for us when we are being led in ignorance, yet we are held to a higher standard when the truth of a matter is presented to us. Sustained and personal exertion necessary to conform to Gods will. Or what harmony has Christ with Belial, or what has a believer in common with an unbeliever? It wasnt until I became a facilitator that I began questioning the program. 1 Cor 6:9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Celebrate Recovery is a Christ-centered ministry of discipleship and healing designed to help adults and families overcome different struggles in life as they grow together in a relationship with God. Celebrate Recovery founder John Baker, who turned his testimony recovering from alcoholism into a biblical 12-step program used by more than 7 million people, died unexpectedly on Tuesday at age 72. We believe in spreading the gospel throughout the whole world. It isnt just the impact he had on individual lives but on all of those who loved those who decided to walk into a Celebrate Recovery meeting.. No person has the same journey and everyone has something to recover from. Other than that they all denied Him, and His Word, and praised the 12-step program, based upon AA. About Of Dangers Recovery Celebrate There were malign and mischievous ones of all descriptions, telling of vices quite beyond my ken, even as former alcoholics. Hi Kellie, Colossians 2:8 states: "See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the . The spirit is willing, but the body is weak." We've been talking the last seven weeks about coming out of the dark, exposing our problems to the light of God's love, and . From that point on, I cannot recall all that I spoke, however, I remember the power of the Holy Spirit was so strong, that not only did I literally believe that time was stopped for me to speak, but I could feel all the demons around me being held back and I was engulfed in this protective shell. To become truly sober, or sober-minded, is not just abstaining from toxic substances from the physical body, but also toxic doctrines from the mind/heart. Wilson, or Bob for that matter, never professed Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour, never mentioned repentance, or that the only Way to the Father is through the Son. Many seem to believe that as long as something appears good, and that someone is helped that it must be of God, when this is simply not true; while He can draw His own creation to Him, in whatever circumstance they are in, this does not mean that it is His perfect will for them to continue on in what they are doing or involved in. Barb, thank you for commenting! (As well as: 1 Thes 5:6, 8, 2 Tim 4:5, 1 Peter 1:13, 1 Peter 4:7). I hope you consider and pray on the things I have brought up, and really examine this program to see if it truly aligns with the word of God. Some Celebrate Recovery groups offer childcare, Celebration Place for kids and The Landing for youth. The most common reason why people relapse after a period of sobriety is that they become stuck in recovery. When we have the fear of the Lord, we fear less of how others might react, and more on doing what is right before Him. We all need to be encouraged from time to time, and I am thankful that this has helped you to be able to make some difficult decisions. 36If thy whole body therefore be full of light, having no part dark, the whole shall be full of light, as when the bright shining of a candle doth give thee light. While tens of thousands flocked to campus, school officials met in a storage closet to make decisions that would honor what is happening.. Never believe one persons opinion about something. The program seems to tip-toe around sin and evil instead of calling it out as such. Before I go further, I want to share something on this topic. John 14:6Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Celebrate Recovery is a Christ-centered 12-step program designed for all "hurts, hangups, and habits," including those caused by emotional, mental, and spiritual dysfunction.As one of the seven largest addiction recovery support programs, Celebrate Recovery is designed to be a confidential place where attendees can work through their "stuff" in a safe and God-honoring place. BE SOBER-MINDED. Negative and positive thinking. What followed was the fairly usual experienceit was a strange mlange of Aristotle, St. Francis, diverse archangels with odd names, deceased friendssome in purgatory and others doing nicely, thank you! Its not my place to tell others what to do. By working and applying these Biblical principles, we begin to grow spiritually. Celebrate Recovery has moved to Community of Hope Church on Thursdays at 6:15PM. For those who would like more resources here are some links: http://www.anti-antichrist.com/soap/lanagan.html, http://www.psychoheresy-aware.org/aaroots.html, https://www.lighthousetrailsresearch.com/ (Search for AA). I sat down with my bible on my lap, that I could not open, but with Scripture memorized, and words that I knew to speak. Thank you, Patty for sharing your thoughts and comment on this matter. True sobriety is not only having control over the body, but also the mind. 23No one who denies the Son can have the Father; whoever confesses the Son has the Father as well. I know what you are implying with sin sickness as it has to do with things I already addressed in my blog and is a strong lie taught within AA/CR. I know, for me, it wasn't hard to recite the 12 steps in solidarity at a . (Pg 5), Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.What can we believe in? Many coming into AA are ready for a change in life spiritually; its a great harvest ground. $5.16 shipping. Both founders, Bill Wilson, and Bob Smith were heavily involved in practicing necromancy, performing seances, using the Ouija board, seeking spirits, and allowing a practice in the occult called automatic writing. This is why it is so important to know who we are listening to when it comes to worship music, and where that music is originating from. John was a great leader, and he will be greatly missed, but the impact of his faithful obedience will go on for generations, Ackerman wrote in tribute.
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