Please see our reviews at the bottom of this page and contact our office on 020 7837 3456 for further details and to make an appointment. Most if not all Parisians love the Metro and consider it theirs. London has monthly / yearly travelcards, but not on the capping system you have to pre-purchase them and theyre valid for the month / year. This really an area where the West should take lessons from Asia (though far integration, which is lacking in some Asian countries should of course still be encouraged). Also its fare gates are an awful design to boot. One paid for it via an automatic salary deduction, paying 50% of its face value. Transportation becomes a stable part of a monthly budget, and it can be used as a solid basis for comparison for someone who might consider going carless. You must read the notice carefully as it may not be necessary for you to come to court in person. In Florida, transit fare evasion occurs when there is unlawful refusal to pay the appropriate fare for transportation upon a mass transit vehicle. The public transport system provides a certain level of constant service and a monthly pass is a right to use this service. It certainly helps the use of the Metro/RER, keeps car use low (you need to be slightly insane to try to drive in Paris; I did for the first year . BUT, this is expensive. In Vancouver, Cubic lobbying and a New Right campaign about fare evasion forced TransLink to install faregates on SkyTrain, and when the faregate project had predictable cost overruns, the campaigners took that as evidence the agency shouldnt get further funding. Try cutting the breakeven point to something starting with a 3 instead. Theres no monthly fare capping in London, but the travel card has a breakeven point of 48 in zones 1-3, which means that commuters who dont take the Tube off-peak will rarely hit the cap. If so, you will be instructed to submit a plea by post. The point is not to charge people to the largest amount you can, the point is to charge them the actual cost of their trip, in order to maximize global utility. There needs to be some power behind the ticket-writer. Most months have a holiday in them, and there may also be a sick or vacation day thrown in. Because I actually believe in trying to have a reality based discussion heres the densities per hectare as of 2014 in the Atlas of Urban Expansion. I dont quite get what is hard to open . On one hand by the awful British system of dozens of different fares for the same journey, and the (now superceded) horrible, and horribly expensive, LU fare structure. (Ile de France has a population density of 1010 people per sq km, that should say. The fare structure should then encourage long-term season passes, including annual passes, so that nearly all residents who take public transport have already paid. Its probably best to see if your Powers-That-Be ever manage to get past Fare Evasion Kindergarten first before doing that. The norm here is that big cities fund urban rail out of fares; the U-Bahn breaks even here, and I think also in Munich. This field is for validation purposes and should be left unchanged. These systems arent put in for a whim the bump in revenue from gating has been well documented otherwise they would not have pushed so hard on covering more stations. And life goes on. Look at the fare compliance b.s. And in general is entirely counterproductive. Some people will learn to dodge the inspectors, as is the case in Berlin, and thats fine; the point is not to get fare evasion to 0%, but to the minimum level net of enforcement costs. Or elect Corbyn.). Id be extremely surprised. People who buy monthly cards are the biggest users of the system and deserve any discounts over occasional users while you appear to believe the biggest users are captive and thus can be charged as much as possible (the British mentality). It cancels more trains than all the other rail firms in Britain put together. CV (July 2017), I decided to use my mothers Freedom Pass just tosave money which was a terrible mistake. In New York City, a spate of attention has come recently to policing Americas largest transit system. https://www.lincolninst.edu/publications/other/atlas-urban-expansion-2016-edition. They might have a different scheme to purely private employers. Or his father Lord, Baron Rees-Mogg? As you can imagine, any criminal record on a 27-year-olds CV would be detrimental to many future opportunities. The penny pinching Japanese private railroad operators seems very able to operate and plan efficient transit decades ahead. though my excuse was I was working out in the suburbs; at the end of my first year the M7 extension reached Villejujif, and simultaneously my old car was vandalised and also gave up the ghost) and helps the economics of those tens of thousands of modest restos etc. Fare gates on very crowded systems (such as Londons) also act as crowd control at Stations that are getting overcrowded due to disruption. I was lucky to find BSB Solicitorswho helped me with my case. Its true that Dunkirk is trialing free public transport, but Dunkirk isnt exactly a shining example of good transit and its free transit trial mostly reduced cycling rates with barely any effect on driving rates. The economic-rationalist argument is that this competition will force all players, especially those wickedly inefficient state bodies, to improve their customer service focus (just listen to Jean-Pierre Farandous statement on attaining the new job: pure management speak while covertly threatening the unions). With regard to other countries in the Anglosphere, I think Singapore and London actually do have monthlies: Singapore has the Adult Monthly Travel Card allowing unlimited use of bus and train services for a month islandwide, for $120. With a modern system, there is no extra inconvenience is actually charging according to how much you use the system. There really are no excuses to adopt gold-standard solutions from elsewhere, though it is depressingly common in US transit, but also many European countries. One could envision that stationing 1 officer / entry watching for fare evasion should bring that fare evasion down to nearly 0 regardless of types of gates, as well as put a significant dent at crime since anyone chased out of the system can quickly be apprehended. (We know this is not true as evidenced byas one exampleyour upcoming conf.) As an operator you want monthly passes because people who have a pass are more likely to use your system in off hours when it is cheapest for you to provide service. Personally Id rather SNCF hired from Keolis and not from Air France, While the fine for fare dodging is indeed 60 thats for a first time offense. Share this conversation Expert: Patrick;Lawyer replied 1 year ago. Development London. As in Paris-RER this is best done with attractive monthly cards, so even people who have to use cars at least some of the time are tempted to still have a monthly card and use it for all journeys where possible. Having felt very positive about my initial interaction with the person who took my initial phone call, I immediately booked a consultation the next day., I arrived early and was greeted with smiles and a lot of reassurance. Fares arent the only source of revenue for the MTA; the system also earns money from tolls, taxes, government subsidies, and advertisements. In fact, all of these have had a more permissive stance that has been incrementally put in place in NYC over the past 2-3 years, and anyone who rides the train has seen it. I will try to help with this. Wow, I had no idea a Japanese city could have so much car dependent sprawl! The fine in Berlin is 60. Unfortunately, the problem of indifference to monthlies on urban rail is common around the Anglosphere. Answered in 5 minutes by: Solicitor: Jo C. Jo C., Barrister Category: UK Law Satisfied Customers: 82,725 Experience: Over 5 years in practice. Then they use it for specific services, and get the data. Moving the gates upstream is a consideration. What? I will try to keep this as concise as poss - I recently got into trouble on a bus when I accidentally used my boyfriend's 16+ zip Oyster instead of mine (I have an 18+ student one). UK.ManchesterLiverpool2578% Fare enforcement should be done with POP alone, by unarmed civilian inspectors, as in Berlin. We have utilized this guidance to seek to persuade TFL to reach an out of Court Settlement with many of our clients. But lets not pretend were talking about the best means of revenue collection. Maybe I meant A15s? It is not like we are arguing about some fantasy scenarios, I am just saying that the West could adopt systems more similar to the East (where it evidently works very well). Thelawyer who dealt with my caseput me at ease straight aware and was professional throughout my consultation. As you wrote, passengers should be able to get on and off trains quickly, with minimum friction. The question boils down to how New York crowding levels compare with those on the busiest urban POP line, the Munich S-Bahn trunk. It is evident that she is very experienced in dealing with fare evasion prosecutions and aware of the impact that a potential prosecution can have on ones career and volunteer work. On most of our bus lines drivers check tickets on boarding, but we seem to be transitioning away from this as well. Right, but buses represent a small fraction of total pax, certainly in the centre but presumably more in the outer regions (where they will also be less cost-efficient). In cases where longer term avoidance of fares in suspected, for example using someone elses reduced fare Oyster Card over a period of time, Transport for London (TFL) may want to interview you under caution. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. It boasts the worst record on significant lateness. Theres something interesting going on with Chesa Boudins campaign: he wants to decriminalize quality-of-life crimes (okay) and deprioritize prosecuting theft and redirect resources to prosecuting sexual assault (prioritize violent crime) and train cops to be more responsive to victims. Anyway, youre getting stuck in the weeds and one would almost think that is some kind of distracting argument away from the main game: affordable and equitable transit. Indeed if you can get most of your passengers/city reaching two yeses then your casual evasion will be well below a level worth caring about.. Thisll be relatively broad because Im in a hotel bar in Berlin, not at home with all my notes, but generally the London experience is that fare evasion can be divided into two categories: > It is taking all the land area of Ile de France and ignoring that huge parts of it are either farmland (eg. @borners france.fr The official website of France. What youre trying to do is persuade CASUALS that the odds of them getting caught in a random sting arent worth risking., Sure, you dont SAY that. Susan Lenne, Clovelly, NSW. Mistakes happen; Ive accidentally fare-dodged in Berlin twice, only realizing the error at the end of the trip. For commutes, especially the suburban crowd, transit is essentially free as to user, as its paid for by the employer, and the income is untaxed by the government. 3) Is evasion hard (i.e. And it more or less coped with delivering those 1-2 million in a few hours without major drama. Whats really at play is a class war issue. James provided an excellent service and put his excellent knowledge to help me get the best results in something that could have effected my whole professional and personal life in the UK. Pendeltg is the proper S-Bahn / RER after all and that started in 1968. But fares account for the largest chunk about 38 percent (or $6.2 billion) of the MTAs annual earnings. A TFL fare evasion solicitor can intervene at this stage by writing a detailed letter of representation on your behalf, arguing that a prosecution would not be in the Your request has been considered in Lets assume that a bus operator has one equipped vehicle for each size (standard, articulated). The issue is how to get those who live in it to use transit for more of their travel. My tickets were purchased six weeks in advance and were second class non-reserved and off-peak and this is supposed to be the cheapest option. Domestic Violence Protection Notices and Orders, Home Office - Illegal Workers, Criminal Prosecutions & Civil Penalties. No gates to get on. WebOlliers Solicitors: Criminal Defence Law Firm Manchester & London In smaller operations, I actually encountered that the driver just counted the number of people getting on and off (well, that was in a midi bus, or even smaller one. In Hong Kong MTR system, with both the gated heavy rail system and open access light rail system, the operator have employed a lot of additional fare inspector at all stations, to the point multiple of them are visible at every ticket gate, trying to curb down any attempts at undermining the systems revenue, following a trend of distrust against the political stance in operation of the MTR system. Im not sure how much they were promoting free transit (I only browsed it) but their predominant conclusion about UK policy on fares and costs was solid. Its now got the stage where in London trains are much more lightly loaded on Mondays and Fridays. In Europe there are usually other societal goals for public transport than just fiscal efficiency. Aditya Chakrabortty, 19 July 2016. Webtfl fare evasion settle out of courtadvanced spelling bee words for adults. Rich people ride commuter rail, theyre not policed. Sendai for instance is very much concrete before electronics/operations. I profoundly disagree. Is there any country where ethnic minority which is poorer than rest of the population is not disproportionately inprisoned? Broadly: smartcards/ticket machines that actually work and are easy to use, cleaner network/new trains/reliability and half-height barriers/visible staff will do ya. If they decide to prosecute, you will receive a Court Summons in the post, providing a date when you must attend court. This could probably be achieved without putting in more money into the system if rush hour pricing, no or modest bulk discounts, and higher prices for long trips were introduced. On social fares, as on many other socioeconomic issues, it is useful for Americans to see how things work in countries with high income compression and low inequality under the aegis of center-left governments. Of course it changes the math, especially since many people get to work from home every once in awhile. But the real agenda is to crush the unions 2) Casual Southern is a story of rail failure. You will usuallybe asked to respond within ten days. The pricing in Singapore isnt particularly complex nowadays. For example, some fringe party that wont make it to the Abgeordnetenhaus has election posters promising 30 monthlies, down from 86 today; BVG fare revenue was 766.3M in 2019, and the reduction, around 500M/year, is similar in scope to the size of the ongoing investment plan, around 2 km of city center subway or 3 km of suburban subway; the Berlin map I just posted has 24 km of new tunnel inside the Ring (ex-S21 bits already under construction) and 32 outside, so fare reduction subsidies are in competition with such expansion and should not be pursued. Maybe we are cognitively disadvantaged in the West compared to East Asians, but I would instead argue that it is more likely that with modern technology varying fares dynamically by distance is very straightforward (with 1990s technology) and westerners would adapt very quickly. The dissatisfaction with Southern was legendary. We offer face to face, telephone or video consultations to best advise you and help resolve the matter as quickly and efficiently as possible. But yeah, the moralistic response on the left of treating fare evasion as something good (esp. Retrieved 2013-09-21. 1) Habitual All real growing transit cities (in Europe, North America and Asia) will (and do) eventually face capacity constraints and to solve them a lot of new concrete and tunnelling is then always necessary. I imagine the Ring here breaks even too and the subsidies go to the branches in the suburbs. In the urban German-speaking world, everyone with a valid fare can walk onto a bus, tram, or train without crossing fare barriers or having to pay a driver. Its a proxy for lawlessness, for police racism, for public safety, for poverty. The outcome is predictably polarization and is just as disastrous here as for any other dimension of US public services. Bourgeois standards of behavior is what allows public spaces of all sorts to function, whether it be transit, parks, plazas, or beaches. Occasionally there is political lobbying and we did have at least one trial at one station. And you DO want the police involved., Partly this to protect staff but ALSO because non-economic habituals have a higher rate than normal of OTHER shit theyre already wanted for. The lack of S-bahn style operation patterns in the non-megacity regions is a failure of government and private-sector since no-ones pushing it. On similar basis Greater Tokyo is 2,788/km2 which is still quite dense compared to US cities or urbanised areas. Non-car owners would be able to buy an annual pass. They were technically convenient before modern technology (and thus motivated historically), but today there is no excuse to not have payments per trip, and per distance (and preferably also extra in rush hour). Singapore has no season passes at all. I am of course talking about transit performance in how to move the largest amount of people at the lowest cost for the transit users and taxpayers. Not the worse thing that could happen but not a pleasant ride either. To Posters (it is important you read this section), Tell us whether you're in England, Wales, Scotland, or NI as the laws in each are very different. Transport forLondon and most of the other railprovidersusually write to an individual who they suspect of fare evasion, asking them to respond to the allegation. The American moral panic about fare evasion regrettably goes far beyond New York. Let me tell you many working class people like law and order and a good public realm. The #1 cause of escalator failure is human waste. *I already hate the newer online ticketing and information systems. I know that Korea manages to make all of this work at low cost, but elsewhere in Asia, those sprawling, palatial stations with many exits get really expensive. In a country that has, stupidly, bet everything on London, GTR is utterly crucial to the national economy. Most people will pay, one way regardless. For bigger cities, POP is appropriate. At lot depends on whether one looks at the public transport system in isolation or as part of the whole transport system or part of society in general. have been recorded, including against people with mental disability trying to validate their ticket with their disability discount count, with fare inspector questioning authenticity of the disabled passengers proof of disability, and MTR have defended these actions by saying they are allowed to use reasonable violence against those who suspected to have violated their bylaw. I didnt understand this the first time I read it. Writing a letter of representations offering to settle out of court so as to prevent prosecution. BSB was my first choice when I faced the likelihood of prosecution after I failed to show a valid bus ticket when travelling in Central London. WebHow do I write a TFL fare evasion out-of-court settlement letter? In Paris on the RER I cant tell I believe its three figures of which the first is a 1. Shrinkage happens. If in fact the Navigo card works like the old Carte Orange? And Id also like to note if anyone here knows of any similar cases like this, and what was the outcome. I more or less agree but then if we compare Greater Paris with Tokyo, the former with very affordable transit and the latter with more expensive transit, then clearly it doesnt always follow, ie. London generally gives off an impression of treating everyone who is not a Daily Mail manager as a criminal. Because it reduces maintenance costs and eliminates a serious bottleneck to pedestrian throughput, and I dont think systems with faregates have lower fare evasion rates than systems with POP. You meet an interrogation window that demands what time you want to travel, or they only show a single service (Ouigo etc). No doubt designed and enforced by genuine elites who never intend to use the Underground themselves, except for an annual photo-op. So, I dont have a problem with the Octopus type card as long as it keeps transit relatively cheap and easy, for those who use it the most. This is hard to accept for our (moderate) right out of principle, but they now seem to be listening to solid arguments for operational efficiency. According to the present report, there is a common misunderstanding as to what commuting really is and how it should be accounted for. If you do not submit a plea and also do not attend the hearing, the court may issue a warrant for your arrest. But equally it seems such card systems require a certain level of fare simplification to be robust. It is the worst performing train operator of the lot. That means all of your non-commuting trips are free. However, again one should compare the compact arrangement of Ile de France versus what happens with Japan & Tokyos laissez-faire development policies. In Zurich, its 20 trips; ZVV does whatever it can to discourage people from buying single tickets. As someone with a lot at stake and was extremely anxious about the outcome of my case, the final result was better than what I was expecting. That is illogical. The kind of thing I imagined every time I travelled between the two mega-cities in the 80s and 90s. I wouldnt say that, most people are commuting from the suburbs to the center city, so on weekends the pass can be used to visit the center for shopping, cultural events, etc, not to mention any intermediate destinations along the route. 3) The San Francisco stations have public areas before the gates. Why have fare collection at all. If you were to plead guilty at court or to be found guilty after a trial, this is a criminal conviction. Not least, via job access. Its difficult to get an ice cream truck into a subway station. Of course efficiency is important but it is not achieved by those approaches, no matter how theory predicts it. As to the World Cup, I really dont think one should be obliged to design a mass transit system to cope with a once in ten or twenty year event. WebTransit Fare Evasion. Claim the Commute schemes can take the form of season tickets subsidies (STS), fare receipt claims, bike purchases, bus route subsidies, or petrol receipt claims if the job absolutely requires car transport. This split also had an effect on the policing of fare evasion, as checks used to be a LOT rarer on the S-Bahn than the U-Bahn or tram, and in my experience the inspectors also tended to be more lenient, letting people off with a warning if they had a passable excuse, which would never happen with the BVG inspectors. But speaking of this year begins the process of contracting out some RER lines to private management, seemingly driven by right-winger Valerie Pecresse. It involves negotiations and confidential ridership data, but boils down to passenger counts, done (I believe) once every three years.
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