Still, if you have any interest about where youre hitting, not to mention keeping your rifles chamber throat smoother than alligator skin, helping your barrel keep its cool has to remain at the top of your mind. In a more leisurely era, the cure to a hot barrel was time. The use of Shaders is permitted. You are using an out of date browser. We have shot 20 rounds in 60 seconds at matches and then packed up and head to another stage. 1,040. (A small household throw rug placed atop the bench is easier on a gun's finish and the shooter's elbows than bare concrete.). the fuel tank. The black matte barrel on my rifle was warm from the sun before I ever startesd shooting, and was hot enough to make a mirage in the scope after the first 3 shots. I actually have two one with a .223 case for bores up to .35 caliber and another with a .308 case for larger calibers. If you shoot multiple times without running a cleaning patch in the barrel you will feel it gets harder to load the next ball. It may not display this or other websites correctly. The Remington 700 Ultimate Muzzleloader, based on my test rifle, works well with essentially the same bullet and sabot combinations as discovered with the prior testing with the now-discontinued Savage 10ML-II. Target distances ranged from quite close to as far away as 300 yards, so when accuracy-testing a new rifle or load, 10 and sometimes 20 shots per group was the norm. 5. For liability reasons, no shooting activities will be permitted until the contest's time on Saturday morning. P, March 26, 202312:30 pm - 1:30 pm Savage/Smokeless Muzzleloading. As time has gone by I no longer try to eek out every last bit of speed from my guns. Then the barrel tenon shoulder will bear tight all the way around. This one should be a pretty simple test but feel free to ask any questions. If I leave a round in the chamber of a hot barrel too long this will drive up the pressures. (Ret.) I saw a guy use a small high speed fan to draw air through the barrel. It is best to accuracy-test a rifle during ideal range conditions with no wind, but since Mother Nature seldom cooperates where I shoot, wind flags are used. All rifles must be inspected for conformance before the competition. YOU ARE INVITED Anything that cools a barrel too quickly upon application will cause a barrel to warp because it won't be consistent slow radiant air cooling all over the barrel surface. Double the airflow would be nice though, 4x even better. Taurus has redesigned this sporting pistol for performance. You have not found your best load yet. It has a plastic funnel attached to one end and a cartridge case to the other. I'll have to look for some of those temp strips. For cold bore accuracy testing, I can wait 3hrs between shots. Reloading- What pressure signs do you stop at? Please consider this when choosing clothing for the event and shooting accouterments such as shooting boxes and loading tables. Scores determined by measurement from the center of the hole where the ball passed through the target to the center of the X. Hunting Gear, Tactics, Tools, and Reviews. The one I use most is called the Generation II AP Windage Top. Lighter profile barrels need to cool because the heat can and usually does effect accuracy. Five extra points each, for pre-1840s dress, loading from a pouch, or using a flintlock rifle (.75 Hadn't thought of mirage. He custom loads. If it's pretty chilly outside you might get by with 5 min or so. Made a duct with cardboard and tape, and stuck it on the end of the barrel. Due to safety concerns, shooter registration must be limited to 185 shooters. It is also the same for rifles owned by me as well as those received on consignment from the various manufacturers for evaluation. JavaScript is disabled. I do this because factory technicians are quite good at developing loads capable of delivering levels of accuracy ranging from acceptable to excellent whenfired in a large number of mass-produced rifles from various manufacturers. But if you're planning on hunting in thick shrubbery or woodlands with your rifle, an 18-inch barrel should be enough. For me it depends on the cartridge. The first condition occurs when several shots are fired very quickly -- little heat can move from the barrel into the receiver. I just wait a few minutes. I've run twenty fast rounds then gone prone and slow and noticed a big difference - POI creeping noticeably up the target. I hate having to wait 20 min between shots but don't want to hurt accuracy. Once you pick a method, stay with it, and do it the same way between every shot. I have never done anything except let it sit to cool or clean the bore. Was there anything new at shot show as far as barrel coolers that a guy should look at? Quote. The goal is not to have a clean bore, but it is to have the same amount of fowling in the bore for each shot. so you know what to expect should you have to use it for it's intended purpose. Well done "J2shooter" Nicely managed, but which barrel cooler are you actually testing there please? It also depends on velocity. FOLKS THIS IS YOUR SHOOT!!! Seemed as though Jeff and others preferred it for the magnet, battery life and compactness.albeit with the lower amounts of air volume. The 20-50 degrees in decreasing delta t that the 115 degree air causes is very low compared to the delta t caused by the combustion of the cartridges adding heat to the barrel. A custom Remington Model 700 in .338 Lapua I recently shot is a good example. They were pretty stout loads to boot. Thanks for putting this together. But I like go out 5 days in a row and shoot one round at 300 yards. I don't shoot benchrest but do get a gereat deal of satisfaction trying to wring out every bit of accuracy I can. How it behaves as it heats up might be worth knowing. Now you know about everything there is to know about mine. RELAY SETUP The article originally appeared in the June 2019 issue of Gun Digest the Magazine. To all interested shooters! That protocol has since changed to five-shot groups with no barrel cooling between shots. Rotate between two or three rifles, shooting one while the others cool. It works ok, other than the heckling I get from Range Officers. If it's around 50-60F and I have the rifle in the shade, I find 5 minutes will easily do it. You DO get a few questions from the other shooters, but most seem to think its a good idea. With the advent of long-range optics, another consequence of a hot barrel became apparentheat mirage. I have done this many times on various barrels without negative effects. The reticle should be level when the gun is positioned level in the rest. Not only do those shooting in hot and humid states have to deal with the hot sun, the ambient temperature alone can keep a barrel from cooling down properly between rounds. PCCA Because this rifle takes longer to heat up and is inherently stiffer to begin with, whip and mirage are less of a concern. I have a pretty new 700 BDL chambered in 270 that will shoot fantastic sub-MOA groups for the first 3 or 4 rounds, then the group opens up slightly, but is still sub-MOA. For long-range hunting, a barrel length of at least 20 inches is recommended. JavaScript is disabled. The accuracy-testing protocol for rifles has varied considerably through the years, not only among individual shooters, but also among the various types of shooting activities. The author uses a variety of Sinclair International leather bags. Days Inn Princeton, https://facebook.com/events/s/prairie-state-longrifle-show/6359596334069656/, March 18, 20238:00 am - 9:00 am Then I flip the patch over and do it again. loading activities). Accuracy Answers Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! I then blow the barrel Channel out, wipe off the exterior and put it on the rack for at least 60 seconds to normalize. This is a legal requirement. If I'm shooting at a bunch of prairie dogs and need to shoot a lot I just bring multiple rifles and cycle through them. No loaded rifle should be left unattended. A different view of my backyard garden railway.The train starts with a 55-gallon HDPE barrel, 1-inch 11 gauge square tube, 5/8-inch cold rolled round steel stock, 1 5/16-inch flat bar, and 10-inch Harbor Freight wagon wheels. So to me, carbon will both absorb and dissipate heat at a slower rate. Zak Smith got it right. Some shooters keep their cleaning patches in a separate container and pour alcohol on the patches till they are all damp. On the exterior it has proven to be no issue. This works especially well with an AR-15 wearing a handguard with openings over its entire surface. Nice run down of some of the options out there. Please bring your own target stand. is much higher than around here and that is why they would wait so long. for max barrel life how long would you wait between shots on say a rifle like a 338 lm or cheytac based case ? One of the two Rick Graham flags I am now using has a larger vane than the other. If you shoot multiple times without running a cleaning patch in the barrel you will feel it gets harder to load the next ball. I choose to use a slightly damp cleaning patch between shots. I am thinking about taking my portable air tank with me the next time. So my questing is how much can a group size improve by waiting a minute or 2 between shots vs quick follow up (assuming no change . I still like the Riflekuhl even though it may take double or more time. Levers and side pressure plates allow the inside distance between the ears of its sandbag to be quickly adjusted in widths ranging in size from the narrow forearms of hunting rifles to those on varmint and target rifles measuring as wide as 3.5 inches. That's from a warmed up barrel, for hot group shooting. Muzzleloader Forums. Wait a few minutes between shots if you want but I wouldn't shoot or pour anything down the bore. General. I hate sitting around when I could be shooting. Even if they demand more of your hard-earned shekels, these pauses in action remain necessary. Cost: $15 assessed on your 2023 dues if missed. 04-25-2009, 09:25 AM #22. I'm not going to get into the calculations for the heat transfer rate through the barrel radius. Like has been already mentioned here in the re-birth of this post, why buy an air mover to cool down your PRECIOUS Barrel (chamber end in particular) if it does NOT function as an Air MOOVER?. I feel that the damp cloth will ensure the barrel is safe to put the next charge down, so I just try to slightly dampen. Good job. I don't agree with cooling the barrel on carbons or larger profile barrels for accuracy purposes. This raises the question: How do you cool a barrel quickly enough so that you arent costing yourself money and trigger time? Kalamazoo County Expo Center, https://facebook.com/events/s/kalamazoo-living-history-show-/5632545256791676/, March 25, 20237:00 am - 5:00 pm Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location.