This should steer some of you towards the new Colts. She fired five times and I seem to think that she hit him five times before he decided hed had enough and left the house. Have a gun thats collecting dust? I believe these guns spawned legacies because they were more than just the parts that went into them; they represented unparalleled American craftsmanship in an era when national pride was still a shining virtue. The Skyhawk to be equivalent to a Model 85? As you know, the original Cobra shares its heritage with the Colt Detective Special, and the new Cobra draws upon the same lineage. This seems to be SOP for any new gun these days regardless of manufacturer. Come on Colt with the Pythons already We want new Pythons. It works one time, and then the cylinder doesn't rotate on subsequent shots (double action or single action). Sort of, I suffer from MD and am slowly loosing the use of my hands (legs, arms, ect.) Nobody has cried about price yet though i may have to scroll down more. For Colt to come up with this gun as a namesake.holy shit.are you kidding me.wow Colt.what a shame. Ive shot Pythons and Anacondas galore. Fits my hands perfectly and is light weight enough to carry, but Ive been looking at Kimber Micros to replace it for carrying because they are so much lighter and slimmer, but just cant make the switch. Could it have been .357 Magnum? Gun looks like a Charter Arms product. The problem with repairing these revolvers, is a strong tendency to decide to alter a part so that it will work instead of replacing it as intended. We simply have not had a large selection of revolvers to choose from when it comes to full size revolvers. There is a definite market. Specifications: Colt King Cobra. Not too small nor too big. Also, what is with the take off on Pachmyer grips? Ive done my best to summarize my questions and their answers verbatim, below.Where is the new Colt Cobra produced? The Colt Cobra, used by such notorious individuals as Jack Ruby, remained in production across several variants into the 1980s, then was recently reintroduced in 2017 as Colt made a return to. Rather than a smoothly swept oval, the trigger guard. Hogue overmolded grips come standard and a red fiber optic front sight comes factory installed. How about split the difference at 20 ounces? 38 is a bit light for a defensive caliber. When. Im more interested on how this compares to Ruger, S&W and maybe now Kimber than anything else since that is more of where its priced at. Just my $0.10 worth. Although introduced at SHOT Show 2019, the Colt King Cobra revolver traces its lineage all the way back to 1908 with the launch of the Colt Police Positive. Just thinking! The new Cobra sports a Hogue OverMolded grip. Some of these vintage gems can be found in the, Demand was so strong upon its release, the Cobra was often difficult to find. The cylinder release is still old-school original; it is pulled rearward to unlock the cylinder. When that same customer takes a Colt Cobra to the range, with its steel frame and revised grip structure, theyll have a much more pleasurable shooting experience, and theyll be inclined to shoot more often, and more importantly, feel confident enough to carry it. Colt is the Premiere Firearm maker in the History. Survival Trainer and Author. All this negativity 38s a weak caliber, why isnt it aluminum, a Python, an Anaconda, a 3, a 4, a 5, a 357, blah, blah, blah. The smooth feel of the trigger pull was matched only by the exquisite exterior finish. In 2017 the costs are totally reversed, and hand-fitting would make the new Cobra a $2,000.00+ gun instead of a $699.00 gun. I spoke with customer service rep at Colt. The pace slowed, but not nearly to the degree that some revolvers I have run required to score accurate hits. It is a shame they caved and stopped making civilian firearms, revolvers. Colts made a big business decision and its their dough tahtst risk. Something isnt right in Colt-Land with either the design, manufacture or QA of that gun. Colt's King Cobra is reincarnated for 2019 as the 6-Shot .357 Magnum big brother of the Colt Cobra Double Action revolver. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. (Photo: Kristin Alberts/Guns.com). Orrin M. Knutson This Area is for Discussions on All Breeds of Colt Made Revolvers. The pain on the hand is prominent after practicing. However, it showed my lack of skill with revolver reloads using speed loaders or strips. Colt wanted to use the trigger of the Python as the baseline for what it wanted in the new Cobra. I almost slapped down my credit card right then and there, but Im married so Ive been saving up for it. I have gone to carrying the S&W J-Frames. My wife gave me a new King Cobra Target this morning for Christmas, and it's a dud out if the box. Some of their best now work at Standard Mfg./Connecticut Shotgun. I wish you could show them too, I dont understand revolver timing at all nor the colt difference. I just dont get it. The New Colt Cobra is heavier than its namesake, as the original was made with an aluminum frame rather than steel. The New Cobra seems like an updated Detective Special. The trigger guard of the new Colt King Cobra, like those of the new Cobra and Night Cobra, looks as though the gun was dropped on it. (Photo: Kristin Alberts/Guns.com). Give us the option of a nice fat trigger (like my K.Cobra). If this is a .38 Special load, check to see if the bullet will fall through the throat. Rabbit and squirrel are easily taken with this loading. Thanks , Bob. It appears that the trigger pin is more centrally located, and the trigger itself is straighter. They need to handle a lot more guns from the BG (Before Glock) era. It is the perfect frontal fanny pack gun. I fired the gun double action first shot cylinder started to rotate probably 15 degrees or so and the trigger stopped wouldnt let me press any further and the cylinder stopped as well. In these later Colt's repairs are done, not by refitting parts as in the old action, but by simply replacing worn or damaged parts with new parts. Why anyone would want a .38 over a .357Mag. Exactly. The new .38 Special Colt Cobra delivers a new take on a classic snub-nosed revolver. It will show less wear and tear with use that blued or polished up. In double action mode the trigger is smooth, and in single action mode the break is crisp and clean. The new models are updated small frames like the old Detective Special and Diamondback. 20 ounces loaded with 158s, a scant three ounces heavier than a loaded 642. Never gonna happen, Colt left most of the Python tooling in the old Colt building in the area where US Patent/US Firearms was making their SAAs. Why are Colt Pythons so Expensive? I would have brought out a King Cobra, just to show the market that they could do the finishing correctly again. hand. And they had the gall to actually come out with a faux Cobra version of it, too. Just what I thought ,a .38 Really ?? He said it was a fluke that I got this NRA model, it has not been officially released but a batch accidentally shipped out. No ones making any false claims here brother. I just read that S&W is coming out with some new 7-shot 686s including one with a 3 barrel AND its chambered in .357 Mag / .38 Spl+P Why oh why did Colt not chamber this roadkill snake gun the same? There still are some jigs that survive at the East Hartford plant in the testfire area but they look rusted beyond salvation. Only then will I open the wallet for another Colt. Ive had a SP 101 since it came out Very fine gun BUTTT its made for a small-med. We have stopped carrying them at our store because at one time theyre semi-automatics and their revolvers were coming back at least a couple guns a month to be shipped back to Taurus. YES WHY DONT THAY MAKE THE COLT 38 LEFT HANDED?????? Q. I agree with you that would have been a much better plan of attack. The Cobra shot well with both loads tested, including this Sig Sauer Elite Performance load. I bought a Colt Cobra back in 1965 when I heard I was going to `nam. COLT (In Stock) 3.0 (3) 642 .38 SPECIAL+P REVOLVER. We worked hard to ensure that if the market wants more Colt DA revolvers, the Cobra design would be flexible enough, and robust enough, to handle future model variations that customers may want. A. Interesting reading, I dont believe any of it. The MSRP is a bit rich for my bank account but in line with what others charge. Defender 45 ACP 3IN Barrel Matte Black Cerakote Handgun . The Anaconda also ships with Hogue rubber grips, which help dampen recoil. There was a huge difference. Are you guys at GUNSAMERICA interested in pictures of a Colt Cobra NRA special edition that has not been released to public?? They finally got semi automatic handguns that would reliably fire right out of the box to be sold for less than $600. I dont have high hopes for the return of the Colt snake line. I was encouraged by the pull experience you had but yours must have been worked on to get the pull weights you claim. The new Colt King Cobras are guilty of slide plate screw misalignment, sticky ejector, trigger spring/ hammer issue, long trigger reset and double action problems. I was able to find a DeSantis belt holster and a speed loader without much effort that seemed to be made for the Cobra. There have been quite a few revisions and improvements since the first run. The Anaconda & Diamondback blued revolvers had a pretty nice finish, but it was just a reasonable polish-n-blue job. Still waitn. Need Help?service@guns.comCall (866)582-4867, PO Box 1131 13800 Nicollet Blvd Burnsville, MN 55337 2023Guns.com. As close to time travel as you could find in Faulkner County. The above posters that wondered why Colt couldnt come out with a polished, blued finish like the old ones maybe dont understand what it takes for skilled craftsmen to get that finish. Colt has made it clear that this is the First offering. How dare you disparage the trooper mkiii its the poor mans python and I love mine 6 in barrel and adjustable sights its a tac driver. The machinists who made the guns what they were have moved on and Colt in the post-bankruptcy worldmight not have the cash to invest in restarting the line properly. They are great guns. The trigger pull needed some work. 1.The Quick Method: It is the simplest method for reading colt serial numbers, and all praise goes to modern technologies. He didnt say it, but I expect larger revolvers are coming. The reason why the snake gun revolvers werent selling very well in 1990 through the discontinuation of them was simply because everyone had made the jump from revolvers to semi automatic handguns such as a clock. https://www.colt.com/Catalog/Revolvers/Cobra, https://www.gunsamerica.com/Search.aspx?Keyword=Colt%20cobra, An Israeli .308 AK? Everything Ive read elsewhere indicates it is closer to the Colt Detective Special, steel frame and substantially heavier. I just picked mine up and the trigger pull is 9 lb 13 oz in double action and 4 lb 7 oz in single action. I think I'll wait on a .357 variant. This is my 2nd Colt in 2017, the first was a Delta Elite that had quality problems from day one. So I carry a Charter Arms Police Undercover because its over 20 oz and holds SIX rounds. That $200-$300 will buy a lot of ammo. The relatively generous length of the ejector rod helps facilitate the ejection of spent cartridge cases. Mine is Nickel though, which I prefer! Those 12 and 16 ounce revolvers are too light. Has anyone found any of these for sale online brand new in box? Colt spent many years carefully planning before re-entering the revolver market with the Cobra. Then come out with the Detective Specials again. GOOD ARTICLE!I have the 3.8Det. Its something new to them and to anyone whos never shot a revolver. Tradition and nostalgia are important for a lot of gun enthusiasts. Holy CrapI read the whole article and all the comments so far and the word Python only came up once. Aside from that, very satisfied with the weight balance, look, feel, functionality and fit. Comparing a Colt t a Night Hawk??? New Colt King Cobra speedloader update Well I picked up one of these bad boys last night and ran a few hundred rounds through her. Lower the cylinder release a bit. And they still turn out excellent Gold Cup 1911s. And at a price shipped of $580 was a darn deal. The new Colt Cobra is in that same vein, and while it bears the same name and specs as the original it falls short on a few key features. Its just a drag when a company comes out with something new, particularly an icon, and its nothing but complaining for the most part. Then re-start the Diamondback and Anaconda. And this one froze so bad it was rendered a paperweight on one of the brands most important days of the year? The King Cobra fits between a S&W K frame and a J frame in size. EVEN BETTER THAN THE COLT COBRA is the original DETECTIVE SPECIAL with a 3 barrel Better balance and longer sight radius. I have had the cylinder on a J-frame bind after two or three cylinders. The Python 6 and 4.25 revolvers the Cobra and King Cobra in the Colt stables. The grouping opened up only slightly in double-action. This revolver is of the same quality as a Taurus 85. The problem with that was a sharp contrast of the polished muzzle and the blued barrel. I personally would like to see Colt revive the big old New Service in .45 Colt. The Cobra was designed to be a family name. Although he wasnt entirely clear, I took his comments to mean that they would have more Cobra options soon. Are you sure about the specs? I know Colt is a weird company when it comes to selling Firearms they want to only deal with authorized Colt dealers only. A well place bullet (even a pellet gun) will kill you if the round finds vitals. As for the old Detective Specials: Not the first rimfire "snake" gun-- Colt marketed the original circa 1950s first issue Cobra in .22LR and made a .22LR Diamondback into the early 1990s-- the new Baby Snake fills a hole the . I dont believe all the Colt revolvers were great. The reason why I purchased these besides being a Colt fan fanatic was the simple fact that they were assembled by gunsmith not gun techs on a huge assembly line. the blued versions werent especially great. And Colt still missed the mark with the design. And dont think Colt has gotten rid of all those guys that made the pythons and the anacondas and the cobras and king cobras because there are still working for Colt you can still get your eighties model python refinished in a royal blue and it does look amazing. Firearms dont get much more iconic than John Moses Brownings legendary Auto-5 semi-auto shotgun, affectionately called the Humpback for its distinctive drop at the rear of the receiver. You have entered an incorrect email address! Springfield XP-9 Cal 9MMX19 in Case, Colt Python 357 Magnum Revolver, Winchester Model 12 12 Ga., Winchester Model 70, 30Gov't06 Cal., Browning Over/Under Citori, 12 Ga., 1871 Remington Rolling Block Rifle, Eclipse Double Barrel 12 Ga., Marlin 30-30 Cal. Sure a beat up enough that many shoot .38 special anyway. If that was the real reason Colt made this gun in 38 Special, I think it[s beyond ridiculous!! Colt 1911 Combat Commander Series 70 Steel Frame c. 9MM LUGER 1911 COMMANDER COLT COMBAT SEMI AUTO PISTOL LIKE NEW IN BOX G PETERS 1500-6. Colt, much like many other gun companies, has gone with MIM parts. It was sent/sold to me from large online dealer unaware of the specially designed NRA wood grip with etched picture of cobra snake. The Cobra was easy to control, with a very soft recoil. For how long we will see. Not sure if they still do it but the price was over $570 how to redo the finish on a 6in Colt Python royal blue but when we received it back it was absolutely amazing but still very expensive. Model 487T Rifle, 1917 Eddystone Enfield Mfg 4/18 Cal 30-06, Terni 1940XVIII 6.5 Cal, Mauser Spanish . Great to see a Colt with the heavier steel frame.My only concern is the compressed metal parts ( trigger ,hammer) instead of the machined ones on the original Colts. This trigger is worthy of the name Colt, and honestly, it is every bit as good as that of the last Python I shot. I wonder if Colt will decide to sell this in California. It was supposed to be one of their lightest weight pieces available, and the blue/black finish on aluminum is, well, feh. Theres a market for them today, and Im surprised that Colt didnt jump in with both feet, instead of teasing the market with a hideout gun. I hope it turns out to be a commercial success for Colt they need one. Save those semi-hand-made Pythons, the new King Cobra is as good as any of the standard production double action revolvers Colt has made. The new Colt Cobra is in that same vein, and while it bears the same name and specs as the original it falls short on a few key features. The original DetSpecs in stainless were a bead-blasted finish, very similar to this Cobra. The blued DSs were pretty nice, but not the Royal Blue of the Python. So if Colt can do this with a new production gun, I say bring back the 4" and 6" Python and give us another . Then when theyd gotten a feel for those, then do a test run of Pythons. Have you ever heard of the term the past repeats itself well this is exactly whats going on people have been Auto crazy for the last 30 years now we want something else a little different and a lot of these new automatic handgun Shooters have not spent any or very little time behind the trigger of a big bore revolver. Like the 6 rounds. Good Lord guys, Colt does the unthinkable and comes out with a revolver and all you hear is complaints. You do realize that 38 Special can be fired in 357 Magnum chambered guns..right? Also they should make a Centennial type concealed hammer as the exposed hammer is a huge disadvantage in concealed carry draw, prevents it from being able to reliably fire through a pocket or purse and a liability in a self defense situation when the perp claims you cocked the hammer on him before you fired. People are getting over the polymer Plastic Fantastic guns now and were reverting back to a cold piece of Steel a hog leg if you will. It was like an afterthought for Colt to do something like that. Sorry for the bad news. In single-action our test model's trigger broke consistently at 4 lbs., 1 oz., with no grittiness or take-up. As a wheelgun fan, Im also very interested in an indepth hands on review of the Korth offerings from Nighthawk. Reminds of the giant software companies and their vaporware products. S&W 617 vs. Colt King Cobra Target .22. Revolvers, Re-design Phase? Yet in this new small Cobra frame. Back in the mid 90s they couldnt give the King Cobras away. Sadly, its passed into history, but Ill never forget the smell of fresh peanuts roasting or the coal-fired potbelly stove in the center of the lower showroom and the classic mini-tiled entryway and doors. Dont like, dont buy it. I recently handled a new Colt King Cobra at my LGS. I need a crappy built replacement model snake gun like I need a big hole in my head. I can recommend this gun without reservation, something I cant say about all compact revolvers. ALL of the parts for the Cobra are contracted out and made off site, they are just assembled at the factory. The new Colt Cobras are a little more affordable for people who just need a new Pony. Carried it a tour and a 1/2 and it came in quite handy on several occasions. I can believe its two pounds on single action. I dont care for j-frames because of capacity and weight there arent enough bullets and the j is just 15 oz. That was the shortest part of the article and didnt seem to be central at all. Should he have kept it a secret? The new owners understand that abandoning the consumer market was a mistake. And in the event you got a Friday or Monday gun, you better hope it was purchased from Davidson's, or any other outfit that offers a replacement warranty. Disregard.more comments popped up as I was writing the above. Trigger pull is rated from the factory between 7- and 9-pounds in double-action, and 3- to 4-pounds in single-action. Same for my little S&W mod 60 38 five shot. Was that from closing the loaded cyl. I think I got quite a bit more for it than I paid. To correct a previous post the original Cobra was a 6 shot snubby not a 5 shot like the S&W J frames. And it immediately turned heads, winning the 2020 Ballistic's Best Reader's Choice Award for Best Revolve r. . It was marketed as, and was, a PREMIUM revolver. I may take it with me. I may even carry it with some Underwood slugs. THE GOOD: Easy to shoot and completely reliable. I like revolvers as they have personality HOWEVER, most of my handguns are pistols (14 total). Once I learned where the sights needed to be pointed to deliver the shot where I wanted it to be, it was dead on. Colt spent many years carefully planning before re-entering the revolver market with the Cobra. With barrel lengths of 2,3,4,5 & 6, a 6 shooter using half moon or full moon speed clips or redesign the cylinder with internal clips as Charter Arms did. Youd have to go back to the pre-Depression double guns of Parker, Fox, et al, and some custom-orders from Winchesters custom shop prior to WWII. Nightwood Guns 9.57K subscribers Subscribe 60K views 2 years ago Keep the content flowing on Patreon!. In all I may try one when the price becomes more reasonable. Direct Stock Entry New Products Hot Sellers Rebate Items Dream Guns . The Detective Special here is the older, pencil barrel one and goes 25 ounces loaded (who cares what an empty gun weighs.. you dont put it in your holster or belt empty, do you?) Let us make you an offer! The new Python has a 5-pound trigger pull, and it isn't clean and crisp. At least the current vapor blasted finish (or whatever theyre using) doesnt look nearly as rough as the Parkerized Agent and Commando Special guns of the 1980s strike-era when the few craftsmen capable of creating that Royal Blue finish were not available in enough numbers to handle the lower profit margin D-Frame revolvers (Python and Gold Cup models took priority). The front sight pops into view immediately. As I began rummaging through my stockpile of ammunition, I realized that I had sufficient quantities to really do more than just accuracy testing with the Black Hills 125-grain 38 Special +P.Once I was equipped with all the necessary gear, I strapped on the Colt, loaded up my speed loaders and speed strips, and headed to the range. Interchangeable red-ramp front sights are a departure from the original pinned style, smartly derived from the Cobra series. Thank you for reminding me of such wonderful memories from my childhood! If we see the type of success with this model that we hope to see, it will be an easy transition for us to expand on the theme and develop additional models that will appeal to other customers. I dont think my small town gun stores carry them. Ive been hearing hype about this gun since late 2016. However, on the Colt as an EDC, since not using it much, pain on the hand is of little concern, because in a real emergency of 1-6 shots, there is no pain in the moment, and even if shooting 40-50 rounds, pain dissipates over a week. Ive carried a Taurus 605 as my everyday carry gun for several years and have never had a problem with it. The one concern I experienced was the cylinder latch button lever is loose, it works fine but shakes when I touch it. I had to leave it there when I rotated as this type of thing, along with ammo, disarmed hand grenades, M16s and disassembled M60s were sneaking out of country on a regular basis. The new Cobra is pricey, too, just like any other Colt. Colt was not happy with their original CNC shop and switched after finding a machine shop with state of the art machines and equipment that could fit their needs better. The Pythons were always desirable, the King Cobras and Anacondas were scorned for having transfer bar triggers. The comment above does not have a single sentence without at least one grammatical error. (Photo: Kristin Alberts/Guns.com), Classic Browning Light Twelve Auto-5 Review: Busting Clays With the Old Humpback Shotgun. In fact, that last conglomeration resembles a sentence only because it has period at the end. The craftsmen who polished the Pythons used more than THIRTY different buffing wheels and various compounds to just prep for the blueing process (which has been changed by EPA regulations since the old days). The success of the Cobra saw Colt bring two more of its iconic revolvers out of retirement. Whether this was shooter error or a problem with an early batch from Colt, I have no idea. (My 53 Colt Cobra is about 15oz, spec sheet for the new model lists 25oz). Bought a 4 inch stainless high polish one for 300 bucks around 93, left it in a closet forever, traded it in 2010 for an Arsenal SGL21 Russian made AK. Glad to see Colt offering the new Cobra. Yea, we need it! We are building all Cobras right here in our factory in West Hartford, Connecticut.. Colts double action / single action system has been perfected over the years and this trigger benefits from their experience. Immensely popular in law enforcement circles, the 38 Special, six-shot revo dominated concealed carry . But theres no comparison. The stainless steel finish of the Colt Cobra ensures durability and ruggedness. Since the department required we carry a S&W or Colt revoler. Theres never been a better revolver for smaller handed shooters such as women. After all, it is what the market demands more than anything else, the name Colt still carries a lot of weight with people, and they could leverage that. The original Colt AGENT is a nice gun-i have 1- But the 3 barreled Detective Special is the finest handgun, for personal protection, that Ive ever seen. Cylinder lock-up? He bought it for his father, who was stationed in the Philippines while serving in the Veterans Administration. The double/single-action Cobra is the baby in Colts wheelgun lineup. deep Colt blue and Ill take it. GRIN. (Photo: Kristin Alberts/Guns.com), The fixed rear sight and front red fiber optic. I was just looking at an Enhanced Internal Diagram of the new Cobra. But the gun look absolutely amazing just like the day I bought it in 1983. If you look at the cost to produce a hand fitted finished American made shotgun your upwards of 3 to 4K. Retain the allure of the Python by offering only a limited run every year. Leave the .357s to longer barrels where they belong. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Once people would see that, youd see why just saying Oh, were going to make them on CNC machines! isnt going to quite cut it with the original Colt lockwork design. We are building all Cobras right here in our factory in West Hartford, Connecticut. Ill be buying 2 of these for my sweetie the wheelgun gal. Yeah, the same ol, same ol striker fired polymer affair. The trigger on this sample was perfect; I checked the pull on my Wheeler Digital Trigger Gauge, and the single-action breaks at just over 2 pounds, while the double-action is a consistent 7 pounds. I made a mistake on taking ammunition to the range and only had two brands to test with the Cobra. (Photo: Kristin Alberts/Guns.com). With its small frame, 2-inch barrel, an unloaded weight of 25-ounces, it makes for an ideal carry or backup gun. Source: Anyone who wants a small (concealed carry) revolver can choose from Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Taurus, Charter Arms, and probably more. The Colt Cobra holds six rounds of .38 Special ammunition, despite its compact dimensions. This is Colts attempt to produce a competitive product that the average Joe can purchase without taking out a long term loan. K-Mart Classics: Remingtons Nylon Rimfires Engineered To Last. and sometimes thats a little much for non-belt carry. My experience with other Colt revolvers like the Anaconda is that they were NOT premium handguns. Too bad you will be under-armed in a life or death gun fight with a .38. If I move the cylinder latch lever a little, the cylinder will rotate on the . It was quite a pleasant surprise to open the cardboard box up and see the familiar blue plastic Colt box inside, securing the new Colt Cobra revolver. THE SATIN NICKEL FINISH & METAL ARE IN GOOD CONDITION. Colt Cobra TT 38 Special +P Rated Double Action Revolver with Black DLC Cylinder $749.00 $619.99; Notify Me When Available; Brand: Colt; With an MSRP of $699, the, The Colt Cobra: A Capable Snub-Nosed Snake Gun. LOL. Am I an expert on trigger pull? Keep up the good work. I have had the trigger break on an HK P7 during the first range session. The new Pythons are definitely the sort of guns that will go with you to the range every time you head out this year, and probably also next year and the year after that But they're also serious shooters. The Nighthawk, hands down. Features & Specifications of New Colt King Cobra: New Colt King Cobra Common New Colt King Cobra Problems and Solutions Slide Plate Screw Misaligned
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