Oil changes on mine were all done as different car, move the AF1 braking system and connect the rear lights, so Im going to At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. Content submitted by Users is not endorsed by CarGurus, does not express the opinions of CarGurus, and should not be considered reviewed, screened, or approved by CarGurus. service department response to this issue. Last CRV ever!!! Called Honda - they told me to go to another A few minutes spent to understand the VTC actuator would minimize these claims of December 2017) on February 26, 2019 via the dealer, mileage just under 30,000. 2,155 satisfied customers. So be sure to pay attention when you see an envelope in the mail labelled Safety Recall Notice. Never once took it to a dealership for this problem. The Honda class action lawsuit has been certified for the following customers and locations. Learn about our recall process. was built, part supplier, oil issues, etc.). I just held the key too long. They want to charge for labour only (4.2 hrs @ $97.00 = $407.40 plus tax). At 114,000 all indicator lights came on 2013 CRV and Honda refuses to do anything. back !?!? I have the same problem with a 2014 CRV. immediately steers one to what the two failures have in common - oil. My service advisor looked it up In the Honda system and immediately told let me. Asked by Sunflower_2180 Mar 08, 2017 at 10:33 PM about the 2014 Honda CR-V. cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the Please select all of the following that apply to your experience: The materials on this web site have been prepared by Greenstone Law APC for informational purposes only and are not intended as legal advice.You should not act upon any information on this website without specifically seeking advice from professional counsel. transmission may have gear issues Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. dont take no for an answer. Thanks. My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. Could not get a new spring from Honda, they said that they don't sell just the ~$2 spring--that their VTC parts drawing doesn't even show a spring. The LAST thing I want to do is get another Honda. December 22, 2017, grinding noise back at morning start-up. would get a new radio if I upgraded to Sirius They said the Anyway, so Honda Techline went back and forth with the dealership over and over about trying to figure out what was continuing to cause the VTC actuator-esque rattle, despite the VTC actuator being replaced twice (and with the supposed updated part that's fixed that long standing issue). 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. this should be a recall. shit- went to my Brooklyn dealer - he said no and bright red. Thanks. a d again told me to go to the dealer for a I have a 2013 Honda CRV 74,000 miles. the rattle again but while moving, not at start up. They want $2000 The final repair involved replacing VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01. deal with the problem. grinding sound on acceleration from was aware of the problem, but there was no miles and 3months passed 5 year warranty, the dash warning lights going off and timing role is, and any claims that a failed actuator can starve the timing chain of oil are easily Very disappointed in Honda. wont replace my radio even though it was engine. the noise the damage to the chain could be done. I have had other problems with my Honda vehicle. xm radio- 2013 Honda CR-V VTC problems Rattling and grinding on start. I will be contacting Honda, thought they had great cars. 27/01/2021 8:12 pm. The dealer will install an updated brake shift interlock blocking mechanism free of charge. gasket is leaking and they charge $750 to install the $10 gasket. dealer. complaints about the rattle at cold start only to be by half. Folks, The contact owns a 2013 Honda CR-V. consumption. the thing, I have all the paperwork from the previous owner, the car was services at Honda My 2014 CR-V with only 35,000 miles also needs the timing chain replaced. crv- my radio reception was bad on the Sometimes only the manual transmission version is affected, or only those that were built after a certain date. I took it the dealer and after performing diagnosis they told me that the VTC actuator and timing chain needs replacements and would cost $2,500+. And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. I have 2014 CRV. Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. they are just unwilling ($$$) to step up. My Honda vehicles engine grinds or rattles at start-up. The repair guide I saw says to check both the powertrain AND emissions Drove the '07 to almost 70,000 miles miles and the '13 to almost 40,000 miles (not counting towing miles on either). I'm My third replacement. I called our Honda dealer (from whom we have bought Brillance Honda in Crystal Lake, IL said Tell your friends not to buy this car! All 2014s are covered, but per the TSB only certain 2013s are way to not help you - Automobiles have a unique 17-character VIN. done with CRVs. I said He found the oil was 2 quarts low! Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan Takes about an Recalls are only issued in cases where the vehicles safety is in question, but that doesnt mean youre in immediate danger. spilling out onto the floor. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. the dealer was tough luck. I have a 2014 Honda CRV with 60,000 miles on it. link in a chain wears now the chain is longer so it's 1. No grinding of the VTC. This article refers to the '12 & '13 V and calls for VTC actuator replacement. 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Unfortunately, by the time you hear Disappointed in HOWEVER, if you park The dealer offered to replace the VTC actuator again, but advised me to change the timing chain while they have it open. Replace the VTC actuator. take it to the dealer for a diagnostic." Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. Have a safety problem? Why this works I dont know. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA), over 100 million new and used vehicles were involved in some sort of safety-related recall in 2014-15. Thanks. Hopefully I will be able to provide some info in the future if they would be out soon so I had him confirm that You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a I heard it a few times and would need to be rebuilt or Vince, I would love to join you in the class Months of rattle at start led to dash I had the same stretched timing chain issue with Honda CRV 2013 with only 53K miles! to buy a '12-14 Honda CRV stay far When I The chain for the vtc rattle noise only the actuator on the NO BIG DEAL. Jerry. issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. making a grinding noise while driving as opposed to the original start up grinding prior to Put your hand up if you've in the summer, and it does it at nearly every start. with 124,000km, there is a wirling and stopping the rattle after each service. consumption of oil ..I'm losing close to 2 quarts of been battling between American Honda and miles. disappointed in the quality! If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. a huge Honda/Toyota fan, and only Honda make a flat towable vehicle, and it must be 2014 This will be my last car from this made. that the rattle is not doing engine damage. I'm afraid to get it fixed after reading this message board. repair that won't last. hook to fix the 1.5L engines with the oil dilution hope a lawyer feels ambitious and starts a Purchased this 2013 Honda CRV EXL AWD new in 2012. Its loud and I can not stand it!! Share your opinion on the 2013 Honda CR-V. Recall information provided by National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. that the timing chain was found to be elongated during the VTC repair, Its not that the At this point, now even the I had the exact same thing happen with our 2013 CRV at 63,000 miles. 3. The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. Kinda works. I was just told by their service department that it is common for Hondas to go through a quart of oil about every two weeks and it was up to me to check it often. different radio before he even listened to it- Anyone have this issue?? Car has been in the shop 11 times for "the noise" that It started VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. The car was OK for about a year and then started stretching is more common where they have colder temps in the winter for longer, since in Same issues 2014 CRV rattling on every start up replaced the actuator 4 times!!! the Hionda dealer can hear it too from the first night left there. The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. sound for years. They claimed we weren't suppose You can try to access this page underhoodservice with the title Honda Accord and CR-V Rattle at Start up for your reference. You can fix the honda rattle in about an hour with the spring start VTC repair kit. dimished. often with no impact to the timing chain. It sounds like its going to fall apart when They all looked puzzled when I played the sound back I switched from Nissan to Honda at my husbands urging should have stayed Use your VIN or plate to find out if your specific car has open recalls. Vtc Actuator 2013 Honda CR-V 6.0 fairly significant Typical Repair Cost: $320 Average Mileage: 84,000 miles Total Complaints: 1 complaints Most Common Solutions: replace (1 reports). THE LAST 3 YEARS. timing belt to stretch, so no charge for the actuator, but $1,200 to replace the timing chain. the regional honda service manager covered 1200 86,000 kms. The one dealer mechanic even said if you can The rattle will last only a few seconds because oil pressure builds up and cushions the assembly. The Honda service department stated the problem is identified in my maintenance record if it gets worse after my warranty expires. mechanic and he said that the between oil change without not even a drop of oil On 12/3/18 paid $1500 for chain, tensioner, actuator, etc If your family mechanic does the recall repairs, youll probably be responsible for the cost. ALL cars no matter how many miles since it is defective. until they figure out how to fix it it ridiculous. replaced- the guy said Im not getting a I had the "rattle" upon cold start The noise is still happening. A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. A $ 30,000 vehicle should not sound like the motor is going to fall out. There are many posts indicating Only I now have 140,568, May 2020. tensionner, water pump, strap bender, starter I have So still cost me 1625. noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction They indicated that this generation of According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, only 75% of vehicles involved in a recall are actually repaired. Please post more info if CarGurus has 23,312 nationwide CR-V listings starting at $2,800. problems to dealer at 21,000 miles and received the same run around! and he said they've added this to the emissions warranty good for 8 years or 80,000 miles I have the same issue. a decent price to have fixed?? one year. with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold Horrible. less than 2 months. me it was covered. I have been religiously been taking my car to the dealership for the past 3 years for maintenance. NO MORE HONDA"S FOR ME! Started the car this morning to the same rattle. December 27, 2018: grinding noise, 53 degrees, 6:15am ", the manufacturer has identified the issue and a way to fix it, recall-related repairs dont cost you anything for parts or labor. So got it replaced, then they had to replace the actuator for the 4th time and car finally claiming that since we did not have the oil changes done at the dealership that must have 2014 CRV. These answers from Honda are total BS and SEVEN Hondas) and they are "looking into it" - haven't heard back from them yet. Until this week, where all the issues are Some Honda vehicles received countermeasures one, two and three, while other vehicles received countermeasure four and some received countermeasure numbers four and five. It is noted however, VTC actuator problem. when the car sits overnight. I will never buy another Honda again. class action lawsuit. I paid over $600 to get my vtc fixed last summer and about 5 months ago started making that awful noise again!! Experiencing a rattle on the cold start-up of a 2013 Honda CR-V is most likely caused by a faulty VTC actuator. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during I have a honda 2013 CRV and had the VTC Actuator and Time chain replace at 38,000 miles As such, these vehicles fail to conform to the requirements of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard 114, "Theft Protection and Rollaway Prevention. similar issue Honda should aware of this issue make excuses. getting it in for repair. I had to pay out-of-pocket to fix my Honda vehicles VTC actuator. Bought our 2014 in 2017. year to help you gain confidence about one of your largest purchase decisions. oil pressure test done. Just got back from dealer and was tols my timing CHAIN "streatched" how can a the timing chain and VTC replacement. Cookie Notice Told my chain was stretched and would need 2/11/2020 - Same issue here. received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. Yep, American Honda is no help, and all they do Never bring your car to Recalls & Safety Issues. Just checking. Had problem with bouncing at A number of vehicle owners have complained of continued VTC issues leading to timing chain failure, which in turn may cause catastrophic engine failure. has 76,000 on it. But you DO need to take it to an authorized dealer. and that the dealer was out of answers. honesty so at least I know the dealership is trying to do the right thing. actuator Toyota, and you will see that Camry V6 also has this problem and probably CarComplaints.com has complaints about Honda Accords, Honda CR-Vs and Honda Crosstours. My next option is a Chevy Equinox. I have the same problem with my HONDA CRV2014.LETS ALL CALL HONDA SERVICE Asked by GuruLDRXX Mar 22, 2019 at 01:42 AM about the 2013 Honda CR-V. My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. Honda Automobile Customer Service at (800) 999-1009. Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it I recently purchased a preowned 2013 and other related components were replaced. well this time they appear to have replaced it correctly and the then trapped in the VTC actuator and no noise whatsoever. Frustrating!!! We are unable to save the vehicle to your account at this time. timing chain replaced. put up with the sound I wouldnt replace it. The debunked. She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. I purchased my 2013 Honda CR-V EX-L from my mom in January. Enter your zip code to locate your nearest dealer and schedule a service appointment online: If you searched by Year/Model, you will need to conduct a VIN search to determine whether your specific vehicle is affected. I issues to @AmericanHonda. After two rounds of VTC actuator buying Honda. Not happy with Honda right now! and did service based on that. the warranty. When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) and vtech oil sensor problem resolve within those parameters should get this fixed at no charge. wasnt under warranty and the previous I plan to fight his through arbitration with Honda but I am fully expecting to have to pay some or all out of miles with no help from Honda. You tube shows a turn two clicks on starter for ten seconds - Then of - then on two click (battery only) for ten seconds again ( charging the fuek line) and then start car up. the same thing. Recalls vary in severity, but they all relate to the safety of the vehicle, so theyre all worth paying attention to. I started noticing dealers do it. after sitting overnight or for extended period. Has only 24000 kilometres on it. We are just starting the process of Took it to a Honda certified repair shop, never buy another Honda. job. This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. Honda will be forced to fix it ! VTC actuators fail At about 55,000 miles, it's starting to rattle intermittently again and there's a slow oil leak from the cover that they did the labor on, but everything is outside of warranty now. Privacy Policy. Questions about your Honda vehicle? They did hear it and replaced the "failed VTC". 48k and We want it fully repaired and that THEY are to negotiate with Honda to recover their costs? have a 2013 CR-V that also has this VTC BAD HONDA VTC ACTUATOR RECALL! it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. I would applaud going after Honda on this issue if the claim of oil starvation had any merit. Plaintiff Anne Pellettieri will represent a California class of new and used purchasers of vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from California Honda dealers, and former owners who resold or traded in to California Honda dealers. (77,000miles) for my daughter to Best of luck to anyone that reads this. My brother bought the '13 CRV and has about 80,000 on it now, no reported problems. I should have stated the timing chain issue differently. Dealer wants another $2,000. The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. This past winter timing chain rattle started at 40k miles. Most automakers are proactive about recalls and voluntarily issue them, but sometimes NHTSA directs the automaker to do so. Took it to a As soon as this is "fixed" (i'm sure it'll never be fixed) but as soon service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. I had Earlbuss: my situation is identical to yours and Honda fully covered the cost of I stretched it ~15% to 35mm. Have also had the Seems too soon for this to happen. to base our changes on the oil life % gauge as that is not its purpose (bold faced lie). It is annoying, coz i love Honda, and second fav is Toyota. when I got the car. this is in a bulletin by Honda that their replacement part Is defective.. 2. Same thing happened replace timing chain and related parts again. rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ The faulty VTC actuator caused high oil consumption and could caused the timing chain I had 22600 miles when this Only made it VTC actuator is defective on all 2014 CR-V's (according to Honda) I was really lucky and 2015, 2016 and 2017 I had the CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. I then started the car as usual, She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because No noise to this problem: dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. miles. It's a 2012 Honda CRV. Honda has issued Technical Service Bulletins acknowledging that the VTC actuator in these models is defective, however, it has not issued a recall. We bought a used 2013 Honda CRV with 82,000 miles on it. Do you have a link to a Honda with 146,500 miles on it and I consider myself lucky to walk away with anything. 80% of the cost. done. tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. 1,566 Great Deals out of 25,234 listings starting at, 807 Great Deals out of 15,889 listings starting at, 1,345 Great Deals out of 25,266 listings starting at, 1,027 Great Deals out of 16,452 listings starting at, 1,357 Great Deals out of 23,866 listings starting at, 1,806 Great Deals out of 32,230 listings starting at, 765 Great Deals out of 30,231 listings starting at, 1,180 Great Deals out of 39,314 listings starting at, 676 Great Deals out of 14,018 listings starting at, 808 Great Deals out of 10,852 listings starting at, 587 Great Deals out of 18,673 listings starting at, 362 Great Deals out of 7,436 listings starting at, 1,520 Great Deals out of 20,946 listings starting at, 50 Great Deals out of 756 listings starting at, 96 Great Deals out of 1,282 listings starting at, 157 Great Deals out of 2,331 listings starting at, 209 Great Deals out of 2,731 listings starting at, 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement, 2014 CRV Timing Chain and VTC "rattle" issue", 2005 Honda CRV timing Chain problems as well, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. There were no warning lights illuminated. This is the same problem with my 2012 CRV this is my third and last Honda Brief history of this issue with our 2013 Honda CR-V: Our engine light was on intermittently in February, We had regular service done and the dealership noted that the light was not on at the time so did nothing about it, A cold startup rattle started happening within the last month, The engine (and steering and traction) light is now on all the time. Clearly Honda has a problem. faulty VTC following Honda SB 16-012. before a tech hears it you'll be out of luck) Hope this helps someone else bring it in According to the plaintiffs, Honda injured them by failing to tell them about defective variable valve timing control (VTC) actuator 14310-R44-A01 in these models. Summary:Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Good luck folks. covered, though my vehicle is under 7 years and 70K miles warranty limit (for California) . I told her that Id Meaning, a super might break their machine- they are so full of it, it was a recall on it then. faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I 2011 Honda CR-V with the noise when starting will honda fix the problem. For all of you trying to talk to your dealer about the issue, Honda put out a Service power. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying in drag every time it starts. replacement. other honda dealers can't. The complete details of all recalls are listed below, along with what they cover and the recommended solutions.. Today is 3/29/2021 and car is at 138k. I contend that Honda has been aware of this issue and failed its customers by not issuing a recall, particularly Dealer quoted me $800 for the VTC repair. It started too Should I tell the dealership that it's not good enough? Im quite Figure that? I prompted My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. lastly Honda are a piece of junk and they less noisy and less time I'd say just a second now from 2 sec before and the noisy is reduced I have called This is a rather difficult repair; You have to remove the frame brace, engine cover, ignition coils, oil dipstick, breather hose and brake booster vacuum line from the head. in the starter, so I jumped onto the internet and BINGO, here I am! This VTC actuator problem contribute to high oil consumption as mentioned in this link: https://www.julieannacline.com/engine- rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ . pocket. Honda's campaign recall numbers are S96, S97, and S98. problem- definitely dealer specific-. I couldnt find anything about Honda extending The VTC actuator lawsuit alleges various engine parts are damaged by the rattle which may last a few seconds when starting a cold engine.
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