I do not post rude comments. The kind of TV series that they produce on high profile crimes will make sure to turn public opinion. It is not clear whether he still resides in Arizona, where he started his relationship with Diane those many years ago. I think DD is guilty, but I also think her trial was far from due process, and that is the important issue. They are the ones who considered Dianes children as, To this day, his record is mixed; his law license was suspended for, Belli filed a motion for a 2-week extension to familiarize himself with the case because he had to be in Italy, and declared Diane innocent in a press conference, but Foote denied the motion and declared . She would have been released under strict conditions with the support of her family and under the care of a mental health specialist. I would like to believe this is the truth. It was never a slam dunk. The detectives took Diane to the crime scene and were able to retrieve shell cases on the ground where the incident happened. I cant believe anyone even believes or even follows you. So, how much do you know about him aside from this acting profile? No, Im not that gullible, Okay, I just read that she faked throwing her keys. It was very unfair to raise them away from their grandparents and other blood relatives. U seem very one sided on every case Ann Rule has ever written just as u claim she did to u. N her parents didnt want custody of the children just like the father. In her case it seems to be more a matter of punishment. How about dads side of the family? Blood spatter is not an exact science, and is interpreted differently by experts. Dianes family could give you countless examples of the inaccuracies they found in her book. This blogger thinks that if you had bothered reading the blogs that you just mentioned, you would know that I do not call anyone innocent. Because Foote was already familiar with the case, the presiding judge assigned him the murder trial after Downs was charged with the shootings. It was not unlike brainwashing. If you had, you would clearly know that I do not claim her guilt or innocence. They were in their care during the time Diane worked when she moved to Oregon. Do you remember probably about four or five days after They came up with an explanation as to why this was the wrong gun but the jig was up. And these men in black perceived this as an act of war, and proceeded to go after them with every legal or illegal means at their disposal. They hated her attitude and thought she was promiscuous and showed no sorrow or remorse. Thanks for posting for readers. Their first child, Christie Ann, was born in 1974. Basically, I dont believe the site owner has produced enough proof of anything. Mrs. Fredericksons concern for her daughters emotional state was well placed. Her 7 yr old daughter was already dead, her other 2 children were in critical condition. She had not fired a gun. I go fishing with a jurors husband. The US is a very strange bird when it comes to crime and punishment. On May 19, 1983, Diane and her kids visited a friend to look at her new horse, and then went for a drive; not at all unusual for this family not living according to middle class rules. Robert was a married man in Arizona with whom Diane had been having an affair, back when she was still living there. And with hindsight, the fact that this young mother had a personality disorder probably brought a lot of drama to the mix. So imagine when you are troubled to begin with. What was the rationale behind this? It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. Cheryl Lynn followed in 1976, and Stephen Daniel was born in 1979. But I am so tired of the enough time has been served and other criminals have been paroled. The court can just do an APR, Assignment of Parental Rights. Hello. The lousy men in their lives never took a hit because after all, it was these witches fault. What about the fact that they never found the gun? As far as her innocence goes and the possibility of being paroled if she admitted her crime, Diane strongly maintains her innocence. Her father also insisted shetry to help catch the shooter. Christie and Danny have no contact with their father, and they have completed their education. This is a fascinating and informative article that has answered some questions I had, and prompted others: 1. you quoted what diane said as to what happened When she resisted, he shot her kids and struggled with her. Read More: Where Is Robert Knickerbocker Now? A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. Mind: Wrongful convicted. She. Diane had siblings and parents. She threw her keys yet was able to take off right away?? She should of been sentenced to death. I mention in the blog that Dianes mental health is in question so it is obvious that her encounter with her long lost daughter was going to be difficult. 2) You mention her youngest daughter, and how Ann made sure she only heard negative information about Diane. This seems very punitive to have a law like this be retroactive. But the Parole Board refused to hear her. The answers to those questions do not matter anymore. Shes guilty. What man has ever publicly revered a former secret mistress? He said all the police needed was for Diane to bear witness against her ex-husband. WTF? From what Ive read, she gets a parole hearing every decade and the next time in 2030 she will be 75. That testimony was left unchallenged by Mr. Jagger. Growing up, Diane had felt like an outsider and kids had been cruel towards her because of her real or imagined ugly duckling looks and demeanor. So she could not have shot her kids at the distance determined by the state unless she changed her clothing and it did not come up at trial. Steve Bannon won't be detained before trial on charges of contempt of Congress after he failed to comply with subpoenas from the House committee investigating January 6. Just similar stuff.and that I guess, makes it easy for me to see how that song could of fueled her up.never underestimate the power if a song..what feels intense and exciting to you, may not to another, but shoot, anytime I hear pink floyd run like hell.takes me right back 1991 in the heat of my chase..for me, I got the answers I wanted from 89 when my friend said that about the Duran song and it involved in that case. Diane Downs is guilty beyond any doubt and I do not believe that her daughter was coached. The fact that she was driving five miles per hour to the hospital says it all as a mother myself, I dont care how hurt or mentally damaged I was, I would drive that car 100 MPH to get my children to safety. The gun problem or the absence of blood and powder residues are not make believe. Hey Jace, I was not going to post your insulting comments but I decided to let the last sentence fly so that I could answer it. In the 1996 Federal Petition, you can find the Anatomy of Brainwashing that can answer any question on this subject. That her child was basically forced to admit that she saw her mom shoot them? While these are all good questions, (and were maybe all asked in the jury room during deliberations) I doubt the answers even matter anymore. This case had many similarities to the Alice Crimminsstory. Even though his wife shot their children multiple times, and the case was national news, he never surfaced and kept a low profile. Much worse. I still remember my mother picking up the paper and seeing the headline. Copyright 2023 Distractify. The bushy haired stranger that police had gotten a lead on worked at the country club he was at work at that time and had a sever speech impediment. Within a few weeks, the kids who had survived were placed in protective custody and were no longer in Steve's care. She had one arm totally out of commission. Even if the nurses notes indicated countless times that the children asked for their mother and enjoyed her visits, they cut them off from the only family they knew and loved; supposedly for their own protection. And the interrogations were not tapedand barelydocumented. You cant possibly shake off all the gun powder residue and avoid all the blood. This was very stressful. If you want to defend Diane Downs, more power to you. They did a trace metal test to see if Diane had held a gun. I have watched her parole hearing. The next morning Diane appeared in the courtroom with a police report written by Detective Pond a year earlier, in which Ms. Patterson was sure Diane had gone nowhere near the bathroom the night of the shooting (Appendix 62). The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced. It had nothing to do with the evidence of the case and represents useless labeling anyway. Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. Meaning a trial where lying or failing to disclose exculpatory evidence by prosecutors is not happening. It was half baked escape plans that were more in her head than anything and that the media enjoyed blowing out of proportions. Not optional, kids should not be in limbo that long, but it happens all the time. Whether or not Steve Downs was in some way behind the shooting, the man who fired the weapon was a stranger to Diane. And some are even contradictory: shes mentally ill, but also not mentally ill; the site owner wants to focus on pure facts, yet ignore other facts; things happened in court, but those are irrelevant to what else what also happened in court, etc. The following article hopes to help you make more suitable choices and get more useful information She also told media she became pregnant without Steve's "permission." 4 Steve has never spoken publicly about his ex-wife, Diane Credit: AP Where is Steve now? This happened in 1983, not 1893. In fact, I am surprised that people are not flabbergasted by the way this case was handled and tried and that what bothers them most is that I try to discuss it in a blog and dare defending this woman. As a result, he decided not to attend the rest of the trial. That she had no blood or gun powder anywhere when she allegedly shot at close range? And if he really was attached to them and wanted to offer them a permanent home, it means he was unfit to be the prosecutor in this case. I tried to contact you by email but my email wouldnt acknowledge you email address. You hit the nail on the head by stating that in the US especially, they seem to shun complex ethical problems preferring to deal with absolute evil in order to exert absolute power to crush it. It has become entertainment and there can only be good, bad and evil. They both would fall in love and decide they want to marry each other. The interpretation of blood splatter is different than no blood splatter. The case is old and the blog dated, but it is never too late to respond. The Diane Downs' Case Was no Small Sacrifice On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. Same with her brother. If it doesnt matter to you, it should. I try to bring out the details that were ignored because Down was so unpopular: this blog is clearly one sided. Danny said several times that a bad man shot them and it was written in the nurses notes, but never that his mother shot him. 6. Or why the fact that he was a con artist made him such a credible guy in this case. Search within r/halo . Rule defended her right to earn a living and to tell her story. Right?? Diane was right-handed. He needed, now more than ever, to vacate the area asap. No one bothered with these details so I did. On her way to the hospital,she was followed by someone who said she was going slow, but Diane said she was driving fairly fast. This blogger believes in the presumption of innocence and in the possibility of redemption. Q. We, who watched her parole hearing a few years ago prayed HARD that she wouldnt be set free, know she is guilty. I understand that the authorities were afraid to leave the two remaining children under her care if they thought she was guilty, but they could have been released to the grandparents or other blood relatives with supervised visits from their mom considering that she was not charged with any crime. Downs wanted to get rid of the kids because her new boyfriend didn't want . They never tried to reunite them with family. That disinformation was alleged by Mr. Hugi the third day into Jim Jaggers defense and it was never objected to by Mr. Jagger . I like your approach. That towel should have been soaked in their blood not hers. You indicated you were not going to get a divorce? It was a dark and rural road. You dont get any kind of advancement or rehabilitation in prison. There was a lot of evidence pointing at OJ. Steve Downs had allegedly stolen this gun from a friend named Billy Proctor, but after it was found and the ballistics did not match, Bill suddenly remembered keeping it only for a day before exchanging it for another Ruger automatic at a gun show in Mesa; which now meant that the gun that Diane allegedly used to shoot herself and the children, was still apparently nowhere to be found. No worries. I will change it. I dont. Is. (LOL!! According to TMZ, in 2017, Hudson and her former partner David Otunga "reached a temporary custody agreement which gives him custody" of their son. Even if they say that she did not get involved in rehabilitation programs, she did participate, but obviously did not admit to killing her daughter and injuring the others. Diane was known for her love of all animals whichshe treated with great care, and for her independent and wild streak. The gun presented at trial being the wrong one is a fact. The proverbial expression It takes two to tango applies here. As an adoptive parent I cant even imagine trying to justify to my daughter our adopting her if we had in any way been a part of the case to terminate her from her bio family. Whatever mental illness she has, has gotten worse with each hearing. They went after Diane at trial for tapping her foot when they played Hungry like the wolf. My problem with the circumstances surrounding the crimes against these innocent children is that they were twisted by the media. There are many cases where investigators jump to conclusions either because in their gut they think they know or pressure to make an arrestand i guess with all the attention this case got they gave their gut and the public what they wanted. I dont know the woman. But he overestimated the kind of people that would go along with this soap opera. A. I believe Charlene and I had a big blowout around Thanksgiving and I left, called Diane. She was also shot twice andifshe had been sitting up, the seats would have been covered with blood spatter as well as the shooter. Christie was understandably all over the place and I agree that the way in which her statements were procured were very odd and seemed to be very coached. How.. they attacked him. I stuck to what came out at trial and not the fantasy factory coming from the state, the media and Rule. Dianes automobile was secured and examined and no gun was found. Someone can have an evil vibe and not be guilty of a crime. A very reasonable request that was rejected. Contemporary family finding principles argue that a child is best nurtured by parents, then immediate family members, extended family members, spiritual family (Godparents), close friends, etc. Why on earth would anyone recommend leaving the kids with the grandparents? She was not given one inch of presumption of innocence. One should also wonder why their biological father who was so eager to bash his ex on the stand was not given custody, and did not stay in contact with his two remaining children: relevance? why didn't steve downs get custody. Go reading US: The American Gulag, 26 Mar 2009 Exploding prison populations in the US serve a basic need of capitalism. When Dianes youngest daughter, who was adopted after being taken away by the state, found out who her real mother was and decided to reach out to her, the media and Rule grabbed hold of her to promote their agenda. Hugi got the evidence needed to convict after numerous meetings with Christie. It was all about Charlene wanting KnickKnick ~wanting Dianeand Diane wanting a return to the peace she had before Knick asked his wife for a divorce. He actually was the one who suggested theybecome intimate after many friendly, platonic conversations. The woman shot her children. They did not want reunification to keep their verdict intact. 4.Diane was NOT arrested for almost a year after the shootings the d.a.
