A few more calibers throwing those famous .308 bullets include the .300 Ruger Compact Magnum, .300 SAUM, .300 WSM, .30/308 Norma Mag., .300 H&H, 30 Nosler, .300 Wby. Handloaders report optimum performance with a sleek, high B.C., 225-grain bullet pushed to an impressive 2,882 fps from a 24-inch barrel. Will the 27 Nosler shove the .270 Winchester out of the limelight? Just $1 per month , A side-by-side comparison of the .270 Winchester vs. .27 Nosler vs. .277 Sig Fury, By All Rights Reserved. Believe it or not, with the right bullet, it can hang right with the .300 Win Mag without the recoil. Over the decades, millions of deer, elk, sheep, bears and pronghorn have fallen to it, to grace the tables and walls of Americas hunters and add chapters to the American hunting lore. Loaded with a 150gr bullet, the 27 Nosler is 400fps faster than a 270 Win, and 300fps faster than a 270 WSM at the muzzle. of energy, making it a suitable choice for an all-around North American cartridge. Mags. Subscribe to OL+ for our best feature stories and photography. Heres a detailed look at each step of the process. True. So, next best thing: If youre serious about longer shots on elk, man up and use a fast .30 with todays heavy, low-drag bullets, 200 to 225 grains. Joined Feb 19, 2010 Messages 3,240 Location GODS COUNTRY IDAHO. The heaviest HH for your twist is the 148gr, but you'd have to watch oal as it is 1.48 inches long. The 225-grain load in an eight-pound rifle should generate about 40.8 ft-lb of recoil energy. Mag. will kick with 29.3 ft-lb, and the 300 will slap you with 37 ft-lb. Makes me feel good to see I am within 150 fps of the 27 Nosler. How about outstanding accuracy, flat trajectories, long legs and a 165gr wallop at the end of that ballistic journey? Whats not to like? The difference is .07 of an inch, the animal in the receiving end will never know that difference. Because Winchester didnt insist on the caliber being proprietary, anyone could load and chamber for it. Yet, for those who enjoy hunting across the continent or the globe, the 27 Nosler makes a very flexible package that can handle deer and black in the forests, yet reach out across a canyon to handle a bull elk, or across the vastness of the tundra when in pursuit of caribou. With good form, a boat tail 225-grain .338 slug should rate a B.C. Fear of recoil ruins the best laid plans of mice and men, and thats why choosing the best elk cartridge requires thorough research and honest assessment. Any real or perceived failure of the 7mm Rem. The answer is higher allowed chamber pressure. loads top out with 200-grain bullets, 210-, 220-, and 230-grain options are available. It's extremely flat shooting and drops an incredible amount of energy on target. Jan 29, 2023 #2 Dang about a month ago shooters pro had blems for $16/25. arrived in 1958 as a short magnum derived from the .375 H&H belted magnum case. .308-inch diameter bullet carrying 1,500 ft-lb energy and I doubt theyll notice any difference. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. But based on the usage, grains, the barrel life could vary. The .28 Nosler cartridge is one of the best cartridges for hunting elk as long as controlled-expansion bullets are used. but it is not a 1,000. yard Elk rifle it requires skill. With the right bullets, it can actually hit harder than the 375 H&H Magnum at longer ranges. If recoil doesnt bother you, Id look hard at the .300 WSM, .325 WSM, even the new 6.8 Western, agonize over a 24-inch barrel, and probably compromise with a 23-inch barrel. I also have a 28 Nosler and am very impressed with its performance. Mag. No experience with this specific bullet, but with my .270 I have taken 5 elk (2 bulls, 3 cows) with the 150gr Federal Fusion in factory load. Nosler, the world's finest bullets, ammunition, rifles, & brass. Im not suggesting that elk rifles should be four times more powerful than deer rifles, but elk are tough. 180-gr. The newest addition to the Nosler line of proprietary cartridges is the 27 Nosler. Trm82 said: I have one getting chambered right now in 27 nosler . So match your 7mm elk dreams to your recoil tolerance and select among this big family. Mag., and you understand why its not just the most popular .300 magnum of all time, but one of the best all-round elk calibers of all time. Mag., some less. The elk took 3 steps and collapsed. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. In addition to the caliber, Nosler also introduced new 165gr . Weatherby came out with his .270 magnum fairly soon (about 20 years) after the .270 Winchester took off, but the next .277 shooter didnt pop until 2001 as the .270 Winchester Short Magnum. Still, any .37-caliber pushing 250- to 300-grain bullets faster than about 2,500 fps is going to lead to copious amounts of skinning and packing. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Guns. But 3,190 FPS with a 170 pill. Wonderful elk cartridge, so is the .325 WSM, but theyre not common. Unless you work with a custom gun builder and handload, study factory options before choosing. And while most heavy .300 Win. Having said that, Id like to see more manufacturers focusing on deeper penetrating bullets in their .28 Nosler factory loads because the cartridge already shoots so fast that I am less concerned with expansion at a distance than I am about penetrationat least for elk. If there were a factory load of .28 Nosler Cartridges with a 168-grain Barnes LRX, Id order a whole pallet right away. 27 Nosler 150gr AccuBond Trophy Grade Ammunition, 27 Nosler 165gr AccuBond Long Range Trophy Grade Ammunition. If the .338s are the best caliber on the upper end for elk, the 7mms are the best at the lower end. Hunting elk is hard work. Comparing this with the 160- and 175-grain bullets of the 7mm bore diameter, and it isnt hard to see that advantage of the slightly larger bore diameter. Its a bolt action looking quite a bit like an AR-15. After years of hunting and shooting from Africa to Alaska, I think most get cartridge enery wrong. A standard .270 Winchester can do that, right? And, I know they are going to be pretty similar, but, still, I have to choose one. Its a 3.34-inch magnum cartridge that fits the same standard-length action rifles as the .338 Win. I took two black wildebeest with my rifle chambered in .28 Nosler. That increased capacity, coupled with modern powders, allows the 27 Nosler to drive bullets faster and flatter than ever before. I think .277 caliber is going to be the next big thing imo..it will be the next craze similar to the 6.5s..if you get a 27 nosler you will just be getting in ahead of the game. Mag. It delivers greater velocity than even the gargantuan .270 Weatherby. Both new rounds exceed the ballistics of the old one, but do it in different ways. Contributor Brad Fenson takes to the grill, to cook up some delicious venison burgers. This review can help with that. bullets coming soon like the 165-grain AccuBond Long Range just announced and the 170-grain Berger EOL Elite Hunter (G1 B.C. Im a big 270 fan too FYI. Subscriber Services. None require field artillery, but a mature Rocky Mountain bull might weigh 800-1000 pounds, four times the size of most mule deer bucks. This nudges MV (muzzle velocity) to 3,200 fps and increases recoil velocity to almost 18 fps and energy to nearly . Winchesters original loadings included a 200-grain bullet rated 3,000 fps, a 250-grain at 2,700 fps, and a heavy 300-grain at 2,450 fps from 24-inch barrels. Bullets engineered to expand at 7mm terminal velocities are the ticket, and there are plenty of them. But I still dont consider them a top pick for elk just because, well, larger calibers provide a slight edge. Mag. The .277 Fury works with much higher chamber pressures to get high velocity. And there havent been a heck of a lot since. bullets, weight to weight, have a higher SD for potentially better penetration. Ive had unsuccessful elk hunts, but Ive never lost a bull, so my choices have worked for me. Both new rounds exceed the ballistics of the old one, but do it in different ways. The "new" .270s (27 Nosler and 6.8 Western), with faster twists and bullets up to 175 grains change the game. I have yet to see anyone do a comparison of the two cartridges, no doubt because the 27 Nosler is a very new option at this time. The smaller the bullet, the higher its quality and the more precise its deposit must be. We have an embarrassment of choices in 7mms, and elk dont like any. Conceived as a 21st century upgrade, the 27 Nosler delivers previously unobtainable downrange ballistics by pairing the ultimate combination of case capacity with modern long-for-caliber bullets. The easier the terrain, the heavier the hunting rifle youll be able to tolerate. A traditional stock or adjustable? The size of elk also varies. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. Video of Elk Being Shot with .28 Noslerif(typeof ez_ad_units != 'undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[250,250],'backfire_tv-box-4','ezslot_13',175,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-backfire_tv-box-4-0'); Nosler even advertises the .28 Nosler primarily as an elk cartridge. From a distance, it looks like your typical Bobcat. Mag. The distance does not matter. Lighter recoil matched to .300 Win. After all, this was the round Bell used to collect 800 elephants and untold numbers of Cape buffalo. One of the most prominent differences between the two is that the 28 Nosler fires a bullet diameter of 7.2mm or 0.284" while the 300 Win Mag fires the more common 30-caliber or 0.308" diameter bullets. The 26 Nosler has a higher muzzle velocity than the 28 Nosler, making it ideal for long-range shooting. Ever since Nosler announced that they were coming out with the Nosler 27, I have been thinking I would prefer a Nosler 28. bullet makes it easier to hit should you misjudge the range. Just be aware that shot angles and placement do become critical as bullet mass and energy decline. Will your favorite rifle brand and style be chambered in it? During most of its 93 years of existence, the .270 Winchester has been quite popular among hunters, and for as long as I can remember, it has made the Top Five big-game cartridge list at RCBS, according to reloading die sales . The right .30/06 load should add 100 fps velocity and 100 ft-lb energy. The .28 Nosler is a cartridge developed by the Nosler Corporation. For me, its quite tolerable for shooting up to 30 shots in a practice session and certainly a shot or two for hunting. The factory ammo and brass is cheaper for the 28 Nosler. I think a .30-06 with 180-grain bullet offers about the same performance as a 7mm Remington Magnum with 175-grain bullet. Any rifles already chambering for any of the fatter magnums like the RUMs, Dakotas, or .338 Lapua should be fit to fit the 27 Nosler. Start with the .30/30 Winchester and climb until your nose bleeds. When hunting elk with a rifle, shooting distances vary widely depending on the topography and vegetation youre hunting. 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As is a high energy bullet that blows up upon impact at close range. My 28 Nosler launches the 162 Grain EL-DX's at 3,250 FPS. Nosler has built quite a cartridge family, and it continues to grow. bullet will carry about 250 ft-lb more energy. So, in open country, a fast 7mm has tremendous appeal. Today most ammo makers also offer 225-grain bullets in a variety of controlled expansion configurations that retain mass well enough to penetrate better than the original 250-grain cup/core styles while delivering equal, sometimes more muzzle energy thanks to higher muzzle velocity. 28 Nosler is essentially a shortened version of the 7mm Remington Ultra Magnum (7mm RUM). The elk won't know that the bullet is .007" smaller than the .284". Not so long ago, I shot a nice Montana bull from the top of a ridge, down onto a little bench at 350 yards, 180-grain .30-06. We may earn revenue from the products available on this page and participate in affiliate programs. It hits harder than the .30/06 and even the old .300 H&H Magnum without as much recoil as the .338. Add in the lighter recoil of the .300 Win. This point, however, brings up a problem with the .28 Nosler if you plan to shoot factory loads rather than reloading yourself. For over 90 years, American hunters have taken to the field in pursuit of nearly all the game the lower 48 states have to offer with a trusty 270 in hand. Most hunters dont absolutely need such long, heavy bullets for effective performance at responsible game-taking distances, but beyond 300 yards they do flatten trajectories, minimize wind deflection, and maximize retained energy. Chambered in .28 Nosler, this 8 pound, 8 ounce setup kicks quite hard. .270 Winchester. This list of the best cartridges for elk hunting starts with the welterweights and moves up to the heavy hitters. Here stands the old warrior with its two newest competitors in the rather small .27-caliber world. Chambered in the .27 caliber 6.8 Western makes this a certain elk gun. The .270s are similarly adequate for elkwith caution. IMR 7828, IMR 7977 and IMR 8133; Reloder 26 and Reloder 33; Hodgdons H1000 and H50BMG; all make good choices for the big case.
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