This short video explains screening for 11 physical conditions in pregnancy. On the third day, we got a phone call. . My son's congenital heart defect was detected at the 20 week scan and he had 2 other markers, no . And so, yeah we got to, carried on with the pregnancy, kept seeing the consultant, kept sitting in the waiting room outside, because there was a terribly long waiting time sometimes, depending on what time you had the appointment. There was a very marked lack of amniotic fluid which made it difficult, not even for the scanners to see, that made the picture of the scan look very, very different. Most scans are carried out by specially trained staff called sonographers. It seemed a very arbitrary system, and so you quite often sat outside in the waiting room for a couple of hours before you actually got to see the consultant, which was, seemed you know, I kind of remember thinking before we went in to see him on the particular day when we found out there was a problem, 'Why are we sitting here? Only this time, no cry came. Although the anomaly scan is often called a 20-week scan, you may have it any time between 18 and 22 weeks, although it's usually done between 18 and 20 weeks. For instance a couple who knew their baby was 'on the small size' were told he was fine at the 18-20 week scan, but discovered at 32 weeks that he had microcephaly. The contractions started very quickly and within an hour my waters had broken. And it's like, I really wanted to see it and I didn't, and it was it was very mixed. After that I got, I, it was about in, in 19-, hang on a minute, 2001 I got pregnant again, slightly unexpectedly. Within two days I was waiting in my local EPU unit for further tests. And I knew there was no way out. Limitations of the 18-20 week scan So we went home, me to rest in an attempt to prevent miscarriage, my partner to reassure us both. So when that happened to us I really didn't worry, I thought, you know, it was literally the baby was in awkward position, they couldn't see the heart and that was why. You've had, you've had your Down's Syndrome check and that's okay. It wasn't measuring at all the right measurements for the age - there was a heart defect, the limbs were sort of distorted, the arms were, you know - you could see that the arms were very sort of contracted, the hands were contracted. We decided that we wanted medication to help me. hi ladies. DS had 2 soft markers: talipes (club foot) and 'echogenic locii' somewhere - heart I think. Sometimes women were told that the sonographer had found a 'marker' or sign of a chromosomal condition and had to wait for an amniocentesis to confirm the findings. Then I picked myself up. And I could see, before she even said anything I could see that there was something wrong with the heart. He felt strong and fit and healthy. And I can, the words that the scanning member of staff used, "Everything's fine", will stay with me forever. Severe chromosomal conditions such as Edwards' syndrome are now often picked up in the first trimester antenatal screening but itwill usually be more obviousat the 18- 20 week scan, though usually a firm diagnosis will not be made until one or two specialists have weighed up all available evidence about the baby - which usually means that another expert needs to scan the baby again, or until the woman has had an amniocentesis. Looked exactly like our two year old as a baby. So we'd gone through the Down's syndrome or worse scare, we'd had conversations about what we would do, if it was confirmed that it was Down's syndrome or another syndrome, another sort of chromosome abnormality. The sonographer told me to take the notes, and the scan photos with me so they could review them also. So that just left the talipes. But it is a soft marker for Edwards' syndrome. Some people had underestimated how serious any abnormality found at this stage could be for the baby. Emma was 20 weeks' pregnant when a routine scan revealed that the baby she was expecting had Down's syndrome and heart problems. Several parents said they would have preferred being told something, even it was vague. I had hope that the little bumps inside me were fighting just as much as I was to stay with me. The next day, it was confirmed that my bloods had again dropped. Next most likely (but actually in the minority) they identify something which whilst not 100% healthy is treatable. For example, the babys brain, kidneys, internal organs or bones may not have developed properly. Again, we weren't understood. He was tiny, perfect and a Down's syndrome baby. It feels very lonely and isolating. They said the brain was okay -, We were in there for a matter of minutes, literally -, In and out. At that point, I got very not upset but quite sort of strongly severe sort of with the people at the hospital saying, 'Look, you know, that's 24 hours, possibly a 48 hours' wait - that's not something that's tenable. The clinic advised a follow up scan the week after, to check on progress and to see what to do next. Eventually, the midwife said to us very sweetly, "I think we should deliver the baby now." It doesn't remove the guilt, but I don't know what else to do. Desperately trying to hold onto the glimmer of hope we'd been given. I felt the dread run through me. So even if anomolies are found, they don't always mean a problem.. x. I had issues at the 20 weeks scan with both of mine. We were denying him his life. And so this one can't tell you anything, it's pictures, you're going, you're going to see your baby, you're going to get pictures. Never being able to look after himself. I had my little leaflet, printed off leaflet about choroid plexus cysts. It's, I mean you can't tell from these scans what you're looking at really, but I remember thinking, 'it just doesn't look quite right' or something, but I didn't give it much thought. This article was amended on 24 November 2015 to anonymise the writer. The scan yet again confirmed things were not good, however the sac had grown. My partner tried to remain calm, and at my request rang my mum. The sonographer then passes a hand-held probe over your skin to examine the babys body. Seeing your baby on a screen can be really exciting. I want to enjoy my son again, without any reservations. The same rush of excitement. I returned to be told they wanted to scan me again, another internal to see exactly what was happening. The first result, which tells you if the baby has Down's syndrome, is ready in three days, but the other chromosomal problems cannot be eliminated for up to three weeks. It felt like a lifetime to reach our 12-week-scan. So on the Monday we went in to see the senior sonographer, I think she was a consultant at the hospital. And I'd been on the internet looking up all sorts of things and everything was so negative, it was very depressing, because I thought, 'Well, maybe they've made a mistake, or maybe it's something they can fix, I don't know'. Well, at the regional hospital it was a 3-D scan. I know it is still early days. If you think you may have a medical emergency, call your doctor, midwife or hospital immediately. There's nothing wrong, you know, we've had all the tests, everything's fine,' and being very upbeat about it all. the amniocentesis) and the pregnancy had already ended, or because the scan was not routinely offered in their region 5 or more years ago. Try to relax and take it easy. And there [sighs] was a very dark patch over one, where the eye socket was, and they didn't know it, in the Edward's babies sometimes the eyes don't develop properly, or it might have been bleeding, they weren't very sure. But no. 2022. And they actually asked my husband to come in before they spoke to me. As I say, I'm not a very nice person at the moment. And the first few things they said it didn't sound as thing, as though things were terribly wrong. And it was then because we were at 20 weeks by this point, there was only fairly short window to actually, to get some more tests done, find out what the problems were, and then make any decisions that might have to be made. 13/12/2020 20:45. So I sort of went home quite, fairly kind of happy and I, at, at this point I hadn't any idea things could go wrong anyway. Our baby was beautiful. But it's bloody hard being miserable the whole time. The same anxious wait for a little, pathetic cry. In order for the sonographer to get good images of your baby, the scan is carried out in a dimly lit room. He started to scan me with a cold expression, then told me, "it didn't look good" and that "my womb looked raggedy". Slightly marked from our peers. We had the baby cremated. All my instincts were to protect my belly, yet here I was allowing someone to stick a huge needle into it. It felt like a lifetime to reach our 12-week-scan. The doctor told me he was 98% sure this was a failing twin pregnancy. I get terribly irritated by my close friends and family. I didn't sleep that night I don't think. [Husband] couldn't make it. The thing about that which I felt was difficult is that we could tell when being scanned that there was something very seriously wrong. Again the legs were quite twisted, they said that the baby's sternum was very short - things weren't in proportion you know - the head was quite large, the neck was very thick, there wasn't really like a neck as such it was just things were kind of - there were lots of things that obviously the consultant could see that we weren't aware of. He had to come to the decision by himself. See more information about the 20-week ultrasound scan. For women who have been given distressing news about their baby during the scan, there should be a health professional available to provide immediate support. That was an extremely difficult day. In most cases the scan will show that your baby appears to be developing as expected but sometimes a condition is found or suspected. We bought a two tests that evening (quite lucky as I messed the first one up!). Though the 18-20 week scan can detect when certain parts of the baby's body have grown abnormally, it may not be possible for clinicians to identify why it has happened or make a firm diagnosis based on the scan alone. It went from bad, to worse, to worse, to dire, then to better. This publication is available at https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/screening-tests-for-you-and-your-baby/11-physical-conditions-20-week-scan. I loved him instantly and didn't want to let him go. Others, including those who had been given leaflets to read about the scan beforehand as well as some who were health professionals, said that they had been nave about the 20-week scan. The midwife was on the verge of tears and I felt responsible. The nursery I had selected for our two-year-old son; my maternity leave; the bunk beds; the summer holiday suitable for a newborn baby. The "why me?" And my partner and I would have a completely different life from the one we'd imagined. You may need to have a full bladder when you come for the appointment. Some parents wondered if it was possible to have the same scan done at 16 weeks rather than 20 weeks. We needed closure, to allow us to grieve properly. We talked all night and thanked God for crap television. And shortly after that, that scan we'd finished and the consultant leant back and said, 'I'm afraid we have some problems here'. As two youngest siblings, we were both permanently stuck in the irresponsible, childish role. We strongly advise readers not to take drugs that are not prescribed by your qualified healthcare provider. I thought I was going to burst into tears. Emma was 20 weeks' pregnant when a routine scan revealed that the baby she was expecting had Down's syndrome and heart problems. But I still didn't want to be the one who stopped this baby's chance to live. And everybody knows and everything is right. And even at that early stage it was beginning to sink in that there was something really not right. And my husband, we never got to sit next to each other in the consulting room, my husband was across the room from me, and I was sat next to the consultant, and we were laughing and joking with him about, you know, the home delivery, and everything was going to be, 'Are you still on for the home delivery?' ABDOMINAL CIRCUMFERENCE MEASUREMENT AT 20 WEEK SCAN. I tried to show him the notes and the photos. I was experiencing some light bleeding for the past few days. So I no longer trusted my instincts. We're going to go and see them. So obviously quite relaxed. It can be such a shock so do whatever you need to feel better. I broke down and started hitting my disgusting body that had done this. Some of the conditions that can be seen on the scan will mean the baby may need treatment or surgery after it is born, for example cleft lip. And attribute some blame to them. And she said that, you know, as the, if the baby did develop further there would probably be other problems with internal organs that weren't really that visible at that stage. My partner went out with him, wanting to see him. I just feel very unlucky. Last reviewed July 2017. We left the hospital a couple of hours later. Maybe. Anyway we went in for the meeting with the consultant on this particular time, and we'd got to, I was 30 weeks pregnant by then. He was sure the consultant on Monday would see that the measurements were completely normal and that there was nothing to worry about. It was positive, and I felt elated. That was the first time I had heard him cry. Instinctively, did it feel right? Unfortunately I was not met with a compassionate sonographer. But my brain had been given a train of thought that was impossible to stop. Dont worry we wont send you spam or share your email address with anyone. I had a horrible feeling of relief. I had to wait yet another sleepless night. These were said to be soft markers fo a range of trisomies, 2 of which were incompatible with life. I was given a leaflet and told to return four days later to see the consultant. We've got the same battle scars. I remember thinking, 'Gosh' I now know it was a girl, I didn't know that then, that, 'She looks just like her brother'. Our position in our families has shifted. So she said, 'Come back on Monday. And so we had to go out a couple of times, [wife] had to walk around, and she had a drink of water, which is supposed to sort of change things inside, or help the baby turn around or something because the sonographer couldn't get the measurements she wanted. We also use cookies set by other sites to help us deliver content from their services. But the closeness has remained after the drama has died down. This is not what I imagined pregnancy to feel like', Baby Loss Awareness Week - Voice Five - Bryony Seabrook. It was the end of January, very end - about the 29th - I'd gone into, I'd gone into 5 months by then. Scans cannot find all conditions. And they, sort of two of them were looking at the scan machine and then they sort of switched everything off and said, 'Oh, I think we have, might have a problem'. I was another one who did get bad news at the 20 week scan. I was saving my child from pain and suffering. I had never imagined having an amniocentesis. We'd sort of put those discussions to the back of our mind, and then all of a sudden there are other abnormalities so yeah it was a bit a bit of a shocker [laughs]. I didn't want to go through anymore scans. Those two weeks were agonising for us both. You may like someone to come with you to the scan appointment. I mean the lady who was scanning was very quiet for a long time. Nights were impossible. My partner's face was lit up, seeing the baby for the first time. I was disgusted - disgusted that such a tablet existed, let alone that I should have to take it. It was all going wrong and I wanted to get as far away from the hospital as possible. I have horrible thoughts. And I wish that I'd been told at that point, that somebody had actually turned round to me and said, 'Look, I'm sorry, but I think there's something very wrong. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. I felt I needed proof of what was wrong before I take such a huge decision and that I couldn't do it based on what someone had written on, on the paper. And then, so I went to my next scan, which was the 20-week abnormality scan, and we took our first child with us, I think he was 17 months old at the time. The doctor didn't come. The sonographer will be able to tell you the results of the scan at the time. The scan looks for 11 different conditions in your baby and cannot find everything that might be wrong. He wanted to talk about it, but I didn't. They sort of drew some diagrams, and they said, 'But we need to refer you to a specialist to confirm the diagnosis'. Specialist scans are performed in specialist fetal units and if clinicians feel that there might be problems scanning will be done up to 32 weeks. The doctor explained the options I had to manage my miscarriage. And before they gave me any of the results she asked a colleague to come and told me she wanted to check something, with a colleague, and by then I was getting very concerned because I'd never had that happen before. If an abnormality is confirmed or suspected, referral is usually required, although some obvious major fetal abnormalities, such as anencephaly, may not require a second opinion (this should be decided by local guidelines). The doctor or midwife looking after you will let you know before you come. Apologise for somehow doubting their right to be in this world. I took my vitamins, stuck to the healthy diet and put on a brave face. She just said, 'It's a bit short, it needs to be checked' again basically. We need to have your opinion'. We'll make an appointment with the senior sonographer, the consultant at the local hospital, and she'll do your scan and she'll be able to tell you more things'. I can feel my child kick, it responds when he shouts at football - I mean literally, this baby used to dance around whenever he'd like scream at a goal - and there cannot be anything wrong with this child because it's part of us already. Reading individual, real-life experiences can be a helpful resource, but it is never a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment from a qualified health care provider. Except for the persistent, nagging doubts. We were convinced everything would be OK. I was told this was common as my body and hormones still thought I was pregnant. factor is very strong. It felt so wrong. I felt crushed, I wanted him to at least acknowledge what had been found already. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. But you could see there was something wrong? Most hospitals do not allow children to attend scans as childcare is not usually available. But you know I knew we had, we had to make a decision that was right for the baby as well. In fact, interestingly enough, going sort of. And, for a few hours, I'm convinced I've made a terrible mistake. You can change your cookie settings at any time. I let out an animal scream and [wife] kind of leapt onto me on the bed. We use some essential cookies to make this website work. Actually you could tell from the brain development as he scanned up through the chambers of the brain, that one quarter of the brain, one chamber was not evident. The gel makes sure there is good contact between the probe and your skin. The weeks since that day have been very weird. As soon as we arrived, we were shown to this little room. Not marginalised into being a victim. And, sometimes, I wish I had invited my whole family into the hospital room to see him. When I see a child with Down's syndrome, I have a tremendous need to explain myself and apologise a million times over. The first words I said were: "If there's anything wrong then it's my fault", I had been working 70, nearly 80 hours the previous weeks and pushed myself hard. Maybe our son would have overcome his problems, survived his illnesses, led a happy life. 'Soft markers'. The consultant showed us the letter with our result on and, yes, there were the words "Down's syndrome". I came back probably about 17 weeks pregnant and had the anomaly scan at 20 weeks and like most people expected everything to be fine and to come away with a lovely picture but unfortunately that isn't what happened. All women are offered a dating scan, and an 18- 20 week fetal anomaly ultrasound scan, in line with NICE and UK National Screening Committee recommendations. So I took the test and jumped in the shower. And I, and, I felt the weight of deciding what to do about it. I want to stop having such horrible thoughts. No sort of questions about, 'Do you want to know whether it's a boy or a girl?' Later, I did see and hold our baby. You will be able to discuss this with your midwife or consultant. Still, the consultant thought things would be OK. We don't know, but it's not looking good'. And I, my husband and I both ran our own business at the time so we were desperate to get back and do some work, and things were going really well, so.. I know it sounds odd that you want to hear that it's wrong, but you, you know it's wrong, and you, you want to be reassured either that it's okay or is there something seriously wrong.
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